I have my own original tile and so does avid so i dont kno what ur trying to get at. Because u had a DBZ game thats why i dont get why ur against them...

There must be some disturbance in the force or something cause this isn't the only drama that's been happening the last few days.

I think the reason all this drama starts is that you guys need to chill the heck out and let things go. Stop taking things so seriously and so personally. You all gang up on Lugia and now you feel like you can dish out your disapproval on everybody in the forums.

It isn't working.

Also you all feel like you need to respond to every little thing.

Those of you getting harshly criticized, stop taking it so seriously and feeling like you need to defend yourselves. Most of the community isn't against you.

Those of you harshly criticizing, stop it too. Voice your opinions, but do it in a positive light.

All of you are perpetuating derails and flame wars right now.

Avidanimefan wrote:

Next you'll be telling me that Suuko Faita is a blatant dbz rip-since it is heavily inspired by DBZ, borrows some of the same character designs-slightly editted, and applies some of the themes inherent with DBZ.From what Branks showed me last time we spoke.

Not to derail or anything, but:

It was a blatant DBZ rip. Initially we wanted to have a throwback to DBZ and, instead, ended up with a headache. We had grey Majins, Namekians without scales, Saiyans without tails ( which is normal in DBZ anyway ), and plans for SSJ under a different name. In fact, the "original storyline" was the same as DBZ with very minor differences. I could keep the list going considering I was/am the only programmer/designer for it. I even pointed out here what it was and why it wasn't working out.

At this point, it might as well be turned into a DBZ game, calling it what it is, instead of trying to be a knockoff. Either go original or go fangame, struggling to find a medium for the sake of profit is even more time consuming.

Fugsnarf said:

You all gang up on Lugia and now you feel like you can dish out your disapproval on everybody in the forums.

Not important, but I thought I'd point out that you were part of that "gang", albeit less involved compared to others.

Carry on.

*Disappears within a smoke bomb*

Fugsnark senpai!
*tears*

It's not his fault; there's simply way to many 'K' names around here, lol.

Kumorii wrote:

It's not his fault; there's simply way to many 'K' names around here, lol.

really?

@Fuggems: About the Lugia thing: Sometimes you have to put your dick in someone's mouth to prove a point. Nothing resembling that energy from that thread is happening here.

@Avid: I think you are taking what I'm saying the wrong way. I'm not telling you to stop what you are doing. I'm saying that what you are doing is a shameless capitalization on another franchise. I'm not saying at all what you are doing is illegal at all.

I think the language of this conversation is pointlessly and frustratingly poisoned by a complete lack of context outside of this community though.

I never called your game a rip. I never said the code or art wasn't original. I merely criticized just how much stuff you blatantly and lazily lifted from DBZ's canon. I think you are creative enough to do better. I'm glad you brought up Lige as an example, because he's incredibly self-aware about this topic. I'd suggest a conversation with him about SF. You might gain some perspective.

But I suppose exchanging walls of text doesn't have much purpose to this thread because well, frankly you've already admitted you aren't going to read them, and you really aren't hearing what I'm actually saying.


Every single person in this conversation has twisted what I've said into something that it's not. Even the people that are attempting to agree with me.

Semi-obvious troll wrote:

Hi Ter13 im working with avid i i agree with what ur saying to a degree but the point we are making is that should be the same outrage about all fan games not just dbz u guys are basing it of the history of byond and dbz. But there is no diffrence between that and naruto, bleach,sao, and others i was just making the point of people not being disrespectful about it that do the same thing but its ok just as long as its not dbz.

"Why are you stabbing me?"

"Why are you mad? People get stabbed all the time!"

^This is your logic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_passing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Eichmann_in_Jerusalem#The_banality_of_evil

There's a concept called the banality of evil that actually sort of applies here. When a person is exclusively focused on what others are doing without first laying a critical eye on what they themselves are doing, they can justify ANY negative behavior.

The more you focus on self-promotion without considering critically what it is that your actions say about you, the more you head down this hole of utter refusal to take responsibility for yourself. Instead, any criticism of your actions is excused by classic blame-shifting.