BYOND - Making AAA Game

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Feb 17 2015, 11:17 am
This sub forum is supposed to encourage banter, so if the sole purpose of this thread is only to have people apply to join the team, it should probably be a classified ad.

Personally, I haven't had faith in this project since its inception, and it's mostly because I find it amusing that Silkwizard is quoted as inspiration. Everything about this development, from the huge disjointed team, to this weird "lets make a game without having a plan" philosophy. And especially the super negative reaction to the idea of doing this for-profit- all pretty much makes this whole thing the antithesis of a Silk Games project.

But hey, at the end of the day if you guys make something good I'm prepared to eat my words.
Feb 17 2015, 12:15 pm
In response to Balzack
Balzack wrote:
This sub forum is supposed to encourage banter

Pardon me for using the wrong word (banter). Exclude that and just leave the bitch part.

A list of people who have actually shown any sort of positive & progressive feedback are: Ease, Multiverse7, Gtgoku55, TheLionsRoar, Yut Put, Turboskill, IchiroKeisuke, Lugia319, Taitz, Bloodocean7, Albro1, Cloud Magic, Pongy, Fugsnarf, NNAAAAHH (surprisingly), Balzack, Unwanted4Murder, Alathon (mildly).

Whereas DarkNinjaNaut talks about being a wizard (I have no problem with that though).

Zasif talks about "bewbs" which has absolutely nothing to do with the post and should actually be deleted since it further leads people to want to stray from the OP.

Keeth with his sarcasm. But, I don't care about that because he properly used "Kappa". And, he actually gave some good feedback afterwards.

Alathon since apparently he wants to use the thread as a means of general conversation instead of directly paging Keeth.

Zecronious because he does nothing but talks about the whole thing failing. Yeah, we get it bud. Just let it go.



We literally saw you post it the first few times.

What I am addressing here is that we have a lot of idiots invading a post that (even though it started out not so serious) has become serious since there are actually people interested. If you choose to deny the fact that anything will come of it, so be it. Leave if you have nothing productive to say in terms of at least "improving" the chances of success. Or what could possibly go wrong.

This doesn't only happen in this post. This has been happening in posts all over the forums. And, I know for a fact that all of the mods are kind of fed up with things close to this. Yeah, some of you don't care. But, at least show respect to others who share a common interest. Go to off-topic and do that crap.

There's a time and place for everything, kids.

Feb 17 2015, 1:54 pm
In response to Xirre
Xirre wrote:
A list of people who have actually shown any sort of positive & progressive feedback are: Ease, Multiverse7, Gtgoku55, TheLionsRoar, Yut Put, Turboskill, IchiroKeisuke, Lugia319, Taitz, Bloodocean7, Albro1, Cloud Magic, Pongy, Fugsnarf, NNAAAAHH (surprisingly), Balzack, Unwanted4Murder, Alathon (mildly).

Whut?
Feb 17 2015, 2:13 pm
In response to NNAAAAHH
NNAAAAHH wrote:
Xirre wrote:
A list of people who have actually shown any sort of positive & progressive feedback are: Ease, Multiverse7, Gtgoku55, TheLionsRoar, Yut Put, Turboskill, IchiroKeisuke, Lugia319, Taitz, Bloodocean7, Albro1, Cloud Magic, Pongy, Fugsnarf, NNAAAAHH (surprisingly), Balzack, Unwanted4Murder, Alathon (mildly).

Whut?


Breh... you know I love you. Shh... just let it happen.
Feb 17 2015, 5:26 pm
In response to Pongy
Pongy wrote:
LMFAO. Because everyone knows you can read my pager messages and emails. . .

Please share all your messages about how successful your team is then. Yeah I didn't think so.
Feb 17 2015, 6:03 pm
In response to Zecronious
I don't understand the point of any of this fighting and antagonizing.

Why can't we just let things happen (or not happen) in peace? Why must there always be someone wanting to put someone else down?

It is an issue in many places, but BYOND is definitely where I have seen the most negativity in the past few months out of anywhere I've been.

Let's just let things go, okay? If something happens from this, cool. If not, then oh well. There's no sense in acting this way to each other.
Feb 17 2015, 6:34 pm
In response to Albro1
Albro1 wrote:
I don't understand the point of any of this fighting and antagonizing.

Why can't we just let things happen (or not happen) in peace? Why must there always be someone wanting to put someone else down?

It is an issue in many places, but BYOND is definitely where I have seen the most negativity in the past few months out of anywhere I've been.

Let's just let things go, okay? If something happens from this, cool. If not, then oh well. There's no sense in acting this way to each other.

Exactly what I wanted to say when I read Xirre's response to Zasif.

Unfortunately I didn't and don't care enough to try though. This is just what happens when you have a community of negative peoples with too much time on their hands, and mods that do nothing to put them in their place. Very rarely is there a topic where select individuals (and it's always the same ones, go figure...) don't come in and do their best to derail by trying to be funny or just plainly negative.

While I don't necessarily feel Xirre's idea is going to work, it's not my or anyone else's place to try and discourage his, or anyone involved in his project, ambitions. Instead, I'll reserve my concern and wish them the best. At the very least, they'll learn a thing or two from the experience, and that's always a good thing.
Feb 19 2015, 8:08 am
mods that do nothing to put them in their place.

Didn't you guys just lose a mod two months ago because of community insistence that he was abusing admin and going on witch hunts?

Seems like that incident has already made it to encyclopedia dramatica:

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/ Byond#Galactic_Soldier_and_GamerMania

So which is it? Moderators are doing too much or too little?
Feb 19 2015, 8:22 am
In response to 8BitParagon
It wasn't a community thing, it was a select few who regularly "troll" the forums.

I don't and never had any problems with any mods. When things got policed up, it was for a reason (unless you ask those select few I mentioned).
Feb 20 2015, 3:32 am
Too little. There are posts that are jokes and posts that contain serious matters. If the OP feels like there are a bunch of idiots ruining things for everyone, I think a Moderator has authority to handle things. Such as removing them from the current thread. Therefore, it's not s problem forum-wide but only within one thread. But, this won't happen.
Feb 22 2015, 8:10 pm
In response to 8BitParagon
8BitParagon wrote:
mods that do nothing to put them in their place.

Didn't you guys just lose a mod two months ago because of community insistence that he was abusing admin and going on witch hunts?

Seems like that incident has already made it to encyclopedia dramatica:

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/ Byond#Galactic_Soldier_and_GamerMania

So which is it? Moderators are doing too much or too little?

Definitely too little, but I like it like that. It creates a nice chaotic environment that makes this plan fun to trawl, like you've gone to an asylum and you can't help but laugh when the guy sticks a pencil up his nose and the nurses just watch.

I mean, I personally feel like the forums have become "Who can make the funniest troll comment" contests, or just hatefests. It's 1 of 2 reasons (the other being I need to make sure I actually graduate this semester) that I have pretty much left BYOND.

I think a better way this could've been handled is for Xirre to have posted an interest post in Classifieds. THEN, sent out private invitations to those deemed competent to act as "moderators" or whatever. Once you got your team, great. Make the game. If you want to be open source, you have a list of people that have signed on to make sure the github source stays clean.
Feb 22 2015, 10:02 pm
In response to Lugia319
Lugia319 wrote:
I mean, I personally feel like the forums have become "Who can make the funniest troll comment" contests, or just hatefests.

This comment sums up my stance on the forums extremely well. I've had help from moderators in quite severe situations where it crosses the line but for the most part people seem to just be trolling everywhere possible.
Me and the wizards included of course.
Feb 22 2015, 10:56 pm
I'm all for hatefests.
Feb 23 2015, 9:44 am
I'm going to go ahead and lock this because there's nothing really constructive going on here anymore. If the project is going anywhere from here, it's already being worked on apart from this thread anyways.
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