Bleach Eternity

by Falacy
Bleach Eternity
MMORPG Styled Game, Loosely Based on Bleach.
In response to Durth
Durth wrote:
I doubt that they'll quit and leave their money and stats that they worked hard for years.

They themselves said, I can't be bothered with the menial tasks of finding posts just to humour you, but they're out there.

As for the new players that are supposed to join, I think that good promoting the game will have a good results in statistics.

Good promoting? Like what? He can't promote it on BYOND anymore, and even if he did promote it outside of BYOND (Something I wouldn't think Falacy to do) then he'd gather an even bigger fanbase, and when you consider HU1/2 was the biggest cause of FUNimation's actions on BYOND, I'm sure they'd force Falacy to shut it down again anyway.

I'm playing it for long and all I see is not playing the DBZ game if they're already there for more than month they're playing for all those stats to beat others. They forget that this is dbz game after there's nothing else to do.

Key words highlighted. Note what I said in the my first post.
In response to El Wookie

They themselves said, I can't be bothered with the menial tasks of finding posts just to humour you, but they're out there.

Yeah some of them may quit... It's kinda obvious that some DBZ freaks may not like it. But! Those people with subs won't and subs are the biggest part of HU1/HU2 community and they're mostly using custom icons anyway. So I don't see this problem for the people like that. Well if they're gonna quit anyway then in that case, I have no questions and no answers for their stupidity.


Good promoting? Like what? He can't promote it on BYOND anymore, and even if he did promote it outside of BYOND (Something I wouldn't think Falacy to do) then he'd gather an even bigger fanbase, and when you consider HU1/2 was the biggest cause of FUNimation's actions on BYOND, I'm sure they'd force Falacy to shut it down again anyway.

I mean after converting it to non-DBZ game. He can put it back on BYOND and they won't be chasing him for having that game on his hub. Which means we can promote it everywhere on world and byond along with funimation can only blow (sorry had to say it my way).
In response to Durth
Let me stop you right there. You're under the impression that people with subs are still worth something to Falacy.
You obviously don't know anything about business.


And as I already said. Falacy has said he won't be converting HU1 or 2. Where were you going with that argument?
In response to El Wookie
El Wookie wrote:
Let me stop you right there. You're under the impression that people with subs are still worth something to Falacy.
You obviously don't know anything about business.


And as I already said. Falacy has said he won't be converting HU1 or 2. Where were you going with that argument?

He didn't said that he won't be converting HU1/HU2. He just said that he doesn't know if people will still play the non-dbz game.

And that's not the case. If they're worth of something to Falacy or not. It's just their mentality that won't let them leave what they gained there. You can see a lot of TOP scoreboard players on HU1 that don't quit for years. So basing on it if they stay then there comes a simple chain. They stay -> Newbs joins -> Newbs see that there's a live -> Newbs stay and see what happens.
In response to Durth
Durth wrote:

He didn't said that he won't be converting HU1/HU2. He just said that he doesn't know if people will still play the non-dbz game.

Oh really?

And that's not the case. If they're worth of something to Falacy or not. It's just their mentality that won't let them leave what they gained there. You can see a lot of TOP scoreboard players on HU1 that don't quit for years. So basing on it if they stay then there comes a simple chain. They stay -> Newbs joins -> Newbs see that there's a live -> Newbs stay and see what happens.

Once again. Where are you going with this? Haven't we already established the problem was that people leave because everyone's a douche on BE? I don't even know why you're talking about HU1/2 anymore.
In response to El Wookie
Oh really?

It's not a yes neither a no. And it didn't lost 70% of players. I don't know what he is talking about.


Yep. I made some offtopic sorry for that. As for BE... I don't know... It depends if Falacy's concept and approach for that game has changed.

In response to Durth
'Lost 70% of players.'
'Why bother'

Sounds like a pretty slick no to me.
In response to El Wookie
El Wookie wrote:
'Lost 70% of players.'
'Why bother'

Sounds like a pretty slick no to me.

I won't be arguing here. He should just say simple yes or no. So we won't have to make useless speculations.

And coming back to BE. Why do you say that people quit because of some naughty players?=P I just think it's a lack of new content that game needs.
In response to Durth
I'm somewhat scared to jump into this fight. But my reasoning for the decline in BE2 players are...
Major points that I mention are underlined.

1.) Lack of player oriented competition- PVP oriented competitions is important in countless games because it makes players desire to train and play the game more to defeat one another.Look at the WT in HU2. What use to make me obsessed with HU1 for hours on end was Clan Wars. Naruto GOA is basically completely PVP oriented with minor missions on the side. Too much PVE with too little PVP is not exactly a good thing.. Truthfully, events in general could make the game more lively.


2.) Heavy focus on party- There is a little too much of an emphasis on a party. Don't scream at me x.x. Some things are hard to beat without a party helping you. Grinding for a long period of time just to beat something is no fun either. Low player count + the reliance on a party to help defeat a boss or something is somewhat annoying. Most people don't enjoy constant grinding. I feel that players should be able to solo a low level boss if there isn't a major difference in level.


3.) Higher emphasis on a certain style of gameplay- Most people who I talk to agree that melee oriented combat is not as easy as just using a magic technique. It's far quicker and does heavy damage. The quick regeneration makes things nice and easy. It feels sort of like HU1 to a certain extent except with a cool combo system with a SMALL possibility of being good with melee. The best way to grind is using magic related moves.I feel that no game should have a specific cookie cutter build...


4.) Little Variety in Quests- I've only recently started playing BE again. Majority of the quests basically say "Go pwn some random things". There should be some quests that differ from that. Even though it attempts to make it not feel like grinding...it's still grinding. For example, instead of killing hollows, you can capture some for experimentation. Or you can do a quest where you have to search for something with hints from NPC's along the way. The NPC's with info about a quest you're doing will have a red "!!" above their head. Different rewards would be nice. Items, money, etc. are always a plus.


5.) Lack of value in items, trade,etc.- I don't believe there is a trade option. Please don't bash at me too much, just started playing again. But the thing is, it wouldn't matter too much. I hardly see any major impact the items in the game have on gameplay. One of the few items that I find worth having are the phoenix feathers. A thriving economy encourages PVE. This will reduce a person's pain from grinding. They'll have another goal. Here is my scenario. Valuable item A is released! Players want it! Players are encouraged to hunt! Player finds it! Other wants to buy it! Money is now more valuable! Valuable item B is released! Player wants it! Players are encouraged to hunt! Player who doesn't want it finds it! Player with valuable item A wants it! Trade is now promoted! A thriving economy can drive a game.


I have MULTIPLE other reasons as to why the game isn't appealing to some people. But these are the ones that stand out a bit more than others. Please don't kill me for
speaking my thoughts x.x



Also, Falacy's thoughts are also accurate. Players want easy things. They are all little immature munchkins who don't understand the value of hard work. They can't sit patiently and play a game for a few minutes. They have to get the easy way. But the thing is, I feel that it's only true to a certain extent. The other factors that make the game seem a bit less appealing stack on top of a person's laziness.


Sorry if I sound illogical to you.
In response to El Wookie
El Wookie wrote:
Robert308123 wrote:
uh no i did my hard work on gettin 150 if u want to restart u should go ahead and do ti

I actually gave BE a chance. I played an anime game, gasp!
It was actually alright, double gasp!
But then I quit, no surprise there.
Why? Because of idiots like you, who have hit the level cap and just run around one-shotting everything like a moron on crack.
Idiots like you are the reason BE had hardly any players in comparison to some of Falacy's other games, because of idiots like you people don't bother with the game and leave. What does that say to Falacy?
'Herp Derp nothing to make money off here, no one plays anyway derp.'


I think a level reset would be more than just the best thing for BE, but also the best thing for Falacy, and unlike the derpilicious Robert, I'm not thinking of myself.

-El Wookie

what do u kno.? i have 600+ hours on my timer. how much do u have? derpilicious isn't even a word. pvp is a choice btw. so stop talking like u kno everything because u don't kno shit
In response to Robert308123
Robert308123 wrote:
what do u kno.? i have 600+ hours on my timer. how much do u have? derpilicious isn't even a word. pvp is a choice btw. so stop talking like u kno everything because u don't kno shit

Oh boy here we go!

what
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' is not a word, it should be you.

kno.?
'kno' is not a word, it should be know, and damn son you don't need a period and a question mark, how high are you?

i
Should be capitalized.

how
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' isn't a word, should be you.

derpilicious
Should be capitalized, and since 'derp' is widely used as a word it is subject to adverbs, hence derpilicious is in fact a word.

pvp
If I want to maximum over-nazi, that should be Player vs. Player, but I'll be kind. Should be damn well capitalized though.

btw
'btw' is not a word, should be by the way.

u
'u'. We've been over this.

kno
u kno wev ben ova ths.

u
See above.

kno
See above above.




Now that I'm done with that, let's point out why you're not only illiterate, but also retarded:

'I have 600+ hours on my timer.'

Exactly, hence you're level 150, have no life and spend your time killing weaker people because it gives you wood.
In response to El Wookie
Lol you troll.
In response to El Wookie
El Wookie wrote:

Exactly, hence you're level 150, have no life and spend your time killing weaker people because it gives you wood.


Not trying to go against you, but I thought PVP was optional o.0
In response to El Wookie
El Wookie wrote:
Robert308123 wrote:
what do u kno.? i have 600+ hours on my timer. how much do u have? derpilicious isn't even a word. pvp is a choice btw. so stop talking like u kno everything because u don't kno shit

Oh boy here we go!

what
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' is not a word, it should be you.

kno.?
'kno' is not a word, it should be know, and damn son you don't need a period and a question mark, how high are you?

i
Should be capitalized.

how
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' isn't a word, should be you.

derpilicious
Should be capitalized, and since 'derp' is widely used as a word it is subject to adverbs, hence derpilicious is in fact a word.

pvp
If I want to maximum over-nazi, that should be Player vs. Player, but I'll be kind. Should be damn well capitalized though.

btw
'btw' is not a word, should be by the way.

u
'u'. We've been over this.

kno
u kno wev ben ova ths.

u
See above.

kno
See above above.




Now that I'm done with that, let's point out why you're not only illiterate, but also retarded:

'I have 600+ hours on my timer.'

Exactly, hence you're level 150, have no life and spend your time killing weaker people because it gives you wood.

jesus u really have no life tearin up my 5 second response that took no time to write. and ya it gives me wood u no life hack. are you jealous little boy?.btw btw is an acronym
In response to Robert308123
Robert308123 wrote:
El Wookie wrote:
Robert308123 wrote:
what do u kno.? i have 600+ hours on my timer. how much do u have? derpilicious isn't even a word. pvp is a choice btw. so stop talking like u kno everything because u don't kno shit

Oh boy here we go!

what
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' is not a word, it should be you.

kno.?
'kno' is not a word, it should be know, and damn son you don't need a period and a question mark, how high are you?

i
Should be capitalized.

how
Should be capitalized.

u
'u' isn't a word, should be you.

derpilicious
Should be capitalized, and since 'derp' is widely used as a word it is subject to adverbs, hence derpilicious is in fact a word.

pvp
If I want to maximum over-nazi, that should be Player vs. Player, but I'll be kind. Should be damn well capitalized though.

btw
'btw' is not a word, should be by the way.

u
'u'. We've been over this.

kno
u kno wev ben ova ths.

u
See above.

kno
See above above.




Now that I'm done with that, let's point out why you're not only illiterate, but also retarded:

'I have 600+ hours on my timer.'

Exactly, hence you're level 150, have no life and spend your time killing weaker people because it gives you wood.

jesus u really have no life tearin up my 5 second response that took no time to write. and ya it gives me wood u no life hack. are you jealous little boy?.btw btw is an acronym

Not trying to go against you either but why would he be jealous of someone investing so much time on a 2D game that averages 5 players daily? Just wondering... o.o
In response to Andyextreme42king
its not all at once its over the lapse of a year and a half i was playing alot when it was 20 average not 5 like now
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