Hiro the Dragon King wrote:

The Wii is simple to mod, or was; Nintendo seems to have taken it upon themselves recently, to delete the mods from peoples Wiis upon updating, as well as patching it. The 360 requires physical modding which can get you banned from X-Box live if you simply forget to unplug your ethernet cable, and as you have said, the PS3 doesn't currently have a way.

The Wii is still just as easy to mod and lots of people have a second 360 just so they don't have to worry about getting banned. While other 360 owners just risk it or don't care about live at all.

Sardonic much?

Yes.

Buying games from on-line retailers is not something I have had particularly good experiences with, not to mention that most of the games I search for are listed between $40 and $130.

I know things are crazy expensive, I was just saying that if piracy is so wrong he shouldn't half-arse his efforts to make sure he doesn't have to "steal" the game.

That isn't true, that is like trying to say it is "hacker" proof. For as many hacks as they come out with, Nintendo will have some sort of fix for it. I personally just don't update my Wii.

Smash Stack smashes the stack when Brawl reads data off of the SD card - it doesn't go through the savefile system first.

So in order to patch it, Nintendo would have to go looking through the SD card and stop you loading level files that are corrupted into Brawl, much like they stop the Twilight Princess hack by looking for it and deleting it on startup.

But, there's a catch: There's no code in Brawl to do that sort of look-for-and-delete thing, and the System Menu can't get at it once the game's booted up. So:

1 - Boot Brawl
2 - Insert card
3 - Load level
4 - ???
5 - Profit!

And patching the system firmware can't do a damned thing to stop it. What they can do is start selling patched versions of Brawl minus the exploit, but they can't patch the millions of exploitable Brawls already out.

Since when in the holy hell was the 360 emulatable? Out of the PS3 and 360, it has higher chances of becoming emulatable, but this fast?

Smoko wrote:

...lots of people have a second 360 just so they don't have to worry about getting banned. While other 360 owners just risk it or don't care about live at all.

Again, beyond just "trying out" games.

Vic Rattlehead wrote:

Since when in the holy hell was the 360 emulatable? Out of the PS3 and 360, it has higher chances of becoming emulatable, but this fast?

I'm sorry, I meant to write "extremely impossible" rather than "extremely difficult"... My bad, Holmes.

Vic Rattlehead wrote:

I didn't mean anything rude with that, incase you thought I did. I was just rather surprised to see it was possible, even if barely functional.

Nah. A functioning 360 emulator is still years away.

Vic Rattlehead wrote:

I don't support emulators at all - but it's always interesting to know that these consoles are now far more powerful than any computer.

What's wrong with emulators? Emulators are not only perfectly legal in most cases, but incredibly more powerful in terms of functionality than the systems themselves, in most cases.

Vic Rattlehead wrote:

Pirating is idiotic to begin with, if you like a game, or are looking forward to it, then I think it won't kill you to buy it.

If I like a game or if I am looking forward to a game, there is no reason for me to try it out, I already know that it's worth buying.

God forbid if someone were to play ten minutes of a game to see if they will like it.

Pirates make me sick with how they think it's perfectly okay to steal from these companies.

I'm not sure how many times this is going to be explained in these forums or for that matter, in this thread, but piracy isn't stealing.


As a side note, the largest factor of piracy is it's ease of use.

Even if I were to buy a CD, I may still download it as well, just so I don't have to go through the process of ripping and archiving it. I don't have to bother with any DRM that may or may not be present if I used the CD or the 'legal download' sources.

As far as games go, at least with the older ones, piracy saves you the hassle of tracking down a physical copy, having to deal with 'damaged copies', ridiculous resale prices, or any other problem that may arise. ROMs also allow for a rather organized and easily searchable library.

Not that I support morally unsound piracy though...

I'm not sure how many times this is going to be explained in these forums or for that matter, in this thread, but piracy isn't stealing.

Argue semantics all you want but it doesn't make it right legally or ethically.

Not that I support morally unsound piracy though...

Sounds like you do anyway. If it's not as easy or cheap as you'd like you just ste... ok ok violate a companies intellectual property and engage in unlawful duplication of digital data you have zero right to in any sense.