I have a old LGA 775 P4 3.2GHZ system, I bought a new motherboard, that supported LGA 775 socket CPUs, in the list of supported processors it said P4 through Quad. So I decided I'd get this board and drop my old P4 into it until I could afford a Dual or a Quad core.
So I get all my stuff in today, just assuming I'll reuse my old hardware. Wow was I wrong. Right off the bat my old HP case proved to be a problem. It had a custom motherboard tray lining the inside of the case, and instead of using a CPU bracket to attach the heatsink to the case, it has some custom holes in it, where you screw the heatsink right to the bottom of the case.
Well of course the new motherboard I got, won't work with the custom design of this case. But I figured, just to make sure it'd all work, I'd just let it sit in the case and turn everything on. So then when I go to plug in the pwr led and stuff I also noticed they had some wiggy, weird ass adapter in the case for it.
Lesson of the story, don't ever, ever assume you can ever use any brand name hardware with anything else. I had to buy a new computer case and a retention bracket and I can't even use my new motherboard yet. :(
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 Sep 1 2009, 9:51 am
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Sep 1 2009, 10:15 am
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Hiro the Dragon King
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Why don't you buy a new case? They're comparitively cheap.
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Old cases will often have these problems, especially ones with brands that customize their parts / layout.
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Dell does it monotonously just to make sure you only buy their stuff >_> HP is known to do it too. I'm not sure about Compaq or Toshiba though, since I've never had those brand-name desktop PCs before.
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Spunky_Girl wrote:
Dell does it monotonously just to make sure you only buy their stuff >_> HP is known to do it too. I'm not sure about Compaq or Toshiba though, since I've never had those brand-name desktop PCs before. Compaq is the devil. They do it too. | |
Oh I already purchased a new case as well as a LGA 775 back plate bracket. This whole thing is a little new to me, so I have to learn some way.
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Dude, Dell is the devil, Compaq is just an ugly C**T. Heh.
Dell has got to be the worse computer company around. They are the EA of computer manufacturers. They go as far as to HARDCODE their bios CERTIFYING the uselessness of their PC's. Not to mention 90% of their junk is plastic and from outlying countries. | |
UmbrousSoul wrote:
Dude, Dell is the devil, Compaq is just an ugly C**T. Heh. I agree. I buy up old computers to fix/resell, and I avoid Dells like the plague. I only buy them if they're dirt cheap and have other useful parts, like hard drives or RAM, and ditch the rest. Oh, and last I checked, Compaq = Hewlett Packard. | |
yeah I was going to mention its just an offshoot of HP but I figured that was common knowledge by now.
My family use to buy HP PC's before compaq joined up with them, now HP is in the same ranks cause they add so much junkware to their pc's you aren't getting your value out of buying those factory made pc's. You have to reformat the drive just to use it - otherwise its too slow because of all the junk HP (and other companies) put into factory built pc's. Now we avoid all factory built pc's, they are more cost then worth. More trouble then value. Funny thing is most of them are stuffed full of ad/spyware. For example the asus laptop I bought (which is already dead, go figure, totally not worth it I advise you NEVER TO BUY ASUS PRODUCTS, EVER - As they die just out of warranty then the company won't help you and actually tries to charge you more to get it repaired, then they tell you they can't even repair it cause they don't keep stock of anything!) had some kind of spyware already implemented into it the first time I turned it on I scanned with spybot s&d and it found some tracker file that sends info to the people who built it. Not cool. | |
My experience with Dell has been good, personally. I manage a network of 30 computers, all Dell, and generally have little problems with them. When I have had issues, getting replacement parts was always easy, even the ones from 2002 use standard ATX parts.
One thing I have learned with Dell, though, is that your should always buy as a small business. You get better service, better prices, and no crapware. I prefer to build PCs myself, but at the office that just isn't an option(they always want full 3 year warranties for everything). HP, on the other hand, is nothing but trouble for me. I never recommend anyone get HP or Toshiba(they only do laptops that I know of). Acer is a mixed bag, but normally has the best prices. If someone asks me "I want a good laptop" I always forward them over to Dell's Vostro line. They are solid laptops for a great price and the design is darn near perfect(as far as laptops go). | |
HP makes towers and they use to be ok back in the 90's before the partnered with compaq.
Honestly though I recommend building all of your PC's and stick to towers (unless you absolutely need a laptop, then you need a dependable one, never replace a desktop with a laptop.). Towers last longer, are more reliable, have more power, and in most cases are actually cheaper then a laptop of comparative strength. For example the old budget gaming rig I had lasted for 6+ years and it could play all of the games of those days. The laptop I bought for 3 times the money lasted for a year and a half, leaving me with a bad experience with ASUS (never buy from them, don't buy anything from them at all.) and a regretable experience with the notebook - most importantly a crappy HP laptop that can't play any of my games and not enough money to build a real pc. And considering the dell conversation is talking about the retail PC's, if you buy as a small business obviously it would be better but not everyone buys online some walk into a store and think $500 Dell is a good deal, it isn't. | |
UmbrousSoul wrote:
HP makes towers and they use to be ok back in the 90's before the partnered with compaq. I was talking about Toshiba being laptop only. Honestly though I recommend building all of your PC's and stick to towers (unless you absolutely need a laptop... I used to be this way, but laptops are super cheap, and they do everything most people need. Yes, they do have shorter lifespans, generally, but at todays prices that usually isn't an issue. My netbook does everything I would normally want a desktop for, including drive a 19" display and it cost around $300. I still have my desktop, but it now only gets turned on when I want it to download the latest video podcasts, which means about once a week. And considering the dell conversation is talking about the retail PC's, if you buy as a small business obviously it would be better but not everyone buys online some walk into a store and think $500 Dell is a good deal, it isn't. Dell is still a mostly online/phone company. Sometimes they have small stores and kiosks in malls, but that I know of no big retailer carries Dell(I think Staples might, but who shops at Staples for computers?). Granted, most individuals do buy off the "home" section of Dell.com, but even still, my experience with their hardware has been very pleasant, even if their support and crapware are issues for home users. | |
Fine fine, blame it on the Steel Reserve.
I'll just go back to Not posting in these forums, there is simply No point to it at all. There is nothing constructive to this forum and there never has been. | |
If you can't handle a little debate, you wont get far in this world. I simply disagreed with you, and you threaten to run away from the forums. Not everyone in the world agrees with you. Some of us are willing to admit this.
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No its more I am shaming myself for derailing threads and not helping very much with my lack of immediate knowledge.
The forums, for me, are not a fruitful venture I guess I mean so far I am doing ok with the game and I was just trying to help others but I was providing inaccurate information I guess. | |