That is not true. What the PS3 brings to the table is the ability to have more in a game. With the BD-ROM you can store massive amounts of data, which may include high poly characters, high detail maps, or any number of things in that area. With the added horse power you can do a lot more than just graphics.

A lot of games suffer from lack of power, even on the PS2, X-Box, and really the X360. This doesn't mean graphics, per say.

Think of an RTS. You have 50 units under your command. On a PS2 or XBox you would have to reduce the quality of these units because they would not be able to process all the polys, textures, independent animations, and even personality of the the units. The Game Cube has this same problem, and the revolution will too.

The X360 has a bit more power than the XBox, but not enough to compare to most PCs. The PS3, however, is more powerful than most peoples PCs. That allows it to accomplish these tasks with ease.

You seem to assume that because there is more power there is less game-play. This is far from the truth. Game-play is based on the developer, not the console. Nintendo does create their own games, while Sony hardly does any game developing, leaving that in the hands of third parties.

It is also important to note that the PS3 is made to be expandable and enhanceable by the end user. It will come with a Linux based dashboard, which really goes beyond a dashboard and into an OS. It is said to be designed to allow 3rd party unlicensed games(Much like Linux has many of right now) and to allow its users to toy with the system. I like the idea of putting FireFox on my PS3. You might be saying it is a console, and not a PC, so why would you want to do something like have a browser on it? Good question. Simple answer. The PS3 has enough power to be a PC, so why not make it one too? It might even be possible to install Flash and the many media players for Linux on it, giving you a fully functional PC to connect to your TV, or with a converter, to you 19" LCD, if you have one.

Does that not seem worth it to you? Do you not see the value in such a powerful machine?

On a side note, I will buy a revolution. I have always enjoyed Nintendo systems and I am sure the revolution is no different, but just because I like the Nintendo doesn't mean I can't also like the PS3.

Hazman wrote:

I can almost guarantee that I won't buy an FPS.

Red Steel looks pretty cool, though. Although I think a computer mouse is better than a joystick, not much can beat an accurate light gun.

I'm also going to be sticking with my PC for the most part. It has more games >.>

Well, I do plan to stick with my PC as well. I won't need an HDTV(Although I have one) because I can just use my 19"LCD. I actually look forward to power for reasons besides graphics.

Physics, that is the number one reason for me. Physics can get very complicated very quick and they require extreme power to be controlled correctly.

As HL2 showed, you need power for physics. From what I have read, the console versions of HL2 are lacking, to a very large degree, the physics that the PC gamers get. This is not limited to FPSs though. Racing games, puzzle games, and a large number of other games depend on some sort of a real world physics. The more power you can throw at it the more realistic they can get.

The cell processors are actually designed to do more in a little bit of time, not just one thing, like graphics.

I personally can't stand FPS on consoles. It would be fine if it was connected to an HDTV with a mouse and keyboard, but any other way and a PC is far better. The same goes with most RTSs.

The kangaroo all the way.

SSJ2GohanDBGT wrote:

The XBox 360 is more powerful than most PCs. By most, I mean if you don't want to spend over $3,000 on your PC - the Xbox 360 is more powerful.

Wrong, my PC, which values at around $700USD is just as powerful in most ways, and more powerful in some. I realize to someone who is buying their PC from Dell, you might have to spend $3,000 to get anything close. The only thing that the X360 has on me is the tri-core processor. Graphically my PC is far more capable, and it functions as a PC as well.

Anyhow, to get to the point - what you say is the PS3 brings more abilities to the game than just graphics... then all you say is how it's going to improve the graphics. Believe it or not, but higher polygon counts and increased detail on units are improved graphics, nothing more.

True enough, polys are graphical, and so is most of my RTS example, but do you want to be fighting a 500 on 500 battle of 3 poly units or have some detail. I don't care how you cut it, graphics do come into play in game play. When you have to cut graphics, game play can, and probably will, suffer. If you want a small example, take Grand Turismo vs Rad Racer. Sure, back in the day I put in a good few hours of Rad Racer, but I have spent many days just getting through a fraction of the game. And enjoy every minute of it. What makes this possible? Well, my car isn't a sprite overlayed on the screen, my car reacts realistically to me commands, my rivals on the track aren't randomly popping up and disappearing. What makes all this possible? Power. Another great example: GTA 1 vs GTA 3. Sure, the gameplay is basically the same, but GTA 3 is a lot more fun. Why? You actually feel like you are there. The increased power from the PS1 to the PS2 allowed them to make a fully 3D game where you where actually in a city, taking part in an active world, rather then watching yourself from over head. My point is, power means a lot.

Developers don't have to use all the power, if they don't feel it is important to their game, but those who do need it have it. There is no worries about fitting their game on a DVD or if it will run smooth during action. These things are things that normally take a lot of time and effort to overcome, but now they don't have these limits. Sure, limits are there, but compared to most of the old systems, there basically are none.

..innovative... Nintendo.

If one more person claims that Nintendo is innovative for a single controller design, I swear something is going to happen, and someone isn't going to like it. It is a damn control. We aren't worshiping the people who designed the mouse, yet it is the single most popular control for a computer(well, keyboard is right there with it). Nintendo didn't invent a single piece of technology on the Wiimote, the only thing they did was package it into a control and make it standard. I personally love the PS2 control and do believe it is the best control layout to ever hit a console. I still haven't figured out why Nintendo abandoned the similar layout of the NES and SNES controls.

Like I said before, I plan on getting a revolution, but I don't worship the ground Nintendo walks on. Ok, that was a bit mean, you just seem interest, which is fine, but Nintendo is not any more inovative than any of the other console makers.

What do you mean? Have you read any articles on the Wii? Rockstar and tons of other 3rd party companies like the innovativeness of it and the easiness to develop for it. I don't get where you say it doesn't have good 3rd party support.

Kunark wrote:

I havent read about Wii,

I stopped reading there, because that means your knowledge of the Wii is little to none.

Don't be ignorant. I fessed up that I didn't know about the Wii, you can at least read my reasoning.

Don't you think what a company has always done in the past is probably what they are going to do in the future? I do, so I have a good reason.

Sorry, it looked like I was talking about the Wii in specific. I was talking about Nintendo in general, but it came out wrong. It IS factual that Nintendo has had horrible 3rd party support in the past. It gets better every year, but currently it hasn't even gotten close to the other console companies. Even if the Wii has "better 3rd party support than before", having better doesn't neccisarely mean it's great support. Anything is a relief from what they used to do.

holycraphelikescbfd

I can hardly find a person who likes Conkers Bad Fur Day. I love that game. My friends and I (before they moved, and then I moved) used to play that game all day. Sure, we had a PS2 and Gamecube lieing around, but Conkers Bad Fur Day was too awesome to lie around. N64 rules.