Loduwijk wrote:
If sex is not just for reproducing, then it is not just for the physically mature. If guns are for protecting yourself, then guns are for 3 year olds. If aspirin can be good for kids, then 2 year olds should be allowed to eat as much aspirin as they like. Because, after all, there's no difference between someone who hasn't developed maturity and someone who has. There are consequences to sex that a young child cannot knowingly consent to, including physical damage, disease, and psychological impacts. A 2 year old is not capable of "consenting" to sex. A 5 year old is not capable of consenting. Where you want to draw the line is up to you, and difference societies draw it in different places. But they all draw it somewhere, understanding that sex cannot be for everyone of all ages. | |
Loduwijk wrote:
Regardless of any laws that the U.S. government may make, there is no "magical age" at which a human changes in a way that makes smoking, viewing sexual content, or any other thing any more or less beneficial or harmful. This kills your own argument. You are correct--there is no magical age where people switch from being immature to being mature, because maturity (in every sense) happens gradually, step by step, over a long period of time (arguably, from birth until death). No, on the average there's not much difference between someone at age 17 and that same person at age 18--but there is a pretty large cumulative difference between a 10-year-old and an 18-year-old. Government regulations, although arbitrary, do provide a rough estimate for these sorts of things, which on the whole I think is better than having nothing at all--in an ideal world people are smart enough to make their own decisions, but in this world the government needs to provide some rudimentary protection against self-inflicted idiocy. You do have basically the right sentiment in saying that vice is either good for all ages or bad for all ages, and that neither aging nor maturing will magically change the fundamental value of such things (although in the case of sexual participation this isn't quite true--sex is healthier for adults than for children, both physically and mentally-emotionally), but this goes back to the above--the government has a responsibility to try to make sure that the citizens are responsibly informed and ready to make their own decisions, but not in the end to actually make those decisions for its citizens unless demonstrably necessary for the public good. Choosing to smoke is not a particularly healthy decision for anybody, but by postponing that decision, the government can be reasonably sure that people are ready to make it for themselves. The fact that some younger children are ready doesn't mean that all younger children should be allowed to choose for themselves--and, in fact, the actual case is that some younger children appear to be ready, and a very tiny minority actually are. Note that I don't think that children should be rigidly sheltered from sex and other "mature" subjects; this is couner-productive to the goal of making sure people are ready to make these decisions for themselves. | |
Wow...You're a little lier...Don't listen to this kid Whoknows...He's my good friend...All this stuff he told you guys were all lies!!!He had 1 girlfriend for like 3 days and didn't lay a hand on her...
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Garthor wrote:
Ignore this person. He's just trying to sound cool, but ending up sounding exactly like a moron. Yes. It sounded sick to me instead :( | |
An adult understands all the possible outcomes when they engage in sexual activity. A 10 year old does not. Can I make it any simpler?
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Yes. Since when did all adults suddenly know "o my god, if i have sex, its bad!" Lots of "mature" adults go around looking for "bad" stuff. Escorts, prostitutes, and porn websites wouldn't make a living if some people didn't now would they?
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Whoknows wrote:
dude i was messing wit them u ruined the joke!!! You are the one that is ruined. Seek a physologist. | |
ok guys 2 tell the truth i was not tryin 2 b kewl i was tryin 2 b funny and it defintly worked...hahahaahahahhaahahahahahaha all the sex makes my hands shaky....ahahahahahah it was 2 funny hahaha
\ {i was joking} and also im not tryin 2 spell rite im tryin 2 spell quick lol! hahahaha i luved ur replys tho i hope u dont take it the rong way...lol it was funny tho! | |
Starwarspower wrote:
Yes. Since when did all adults suddenly know "o my god, if i have sex, its bad!" Lots of "mature" adults go around looking for "bad" stuff. Escorts, prostitutes, and porn websites wouldn't make a living if some people didn't now would they? The adult, unless brain damaged or otherwise incapacitated, understands the potential outcomes of what they are engaging in, bad or not. They are capable of consenting. They make a choice. A child is not capable of consenting, and therefore cannot make the choice. | |
No one's suggesting that being an adult means you will make a good choice, or the "right" choice... just that the law acknowledges what common sense also tells us: they're more likely to be able to.
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theres nothin wrong with writin like that,i write kinda like the same way.plus sex doesnt make hands shaky,lack of sex makes hands shaky
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It just means you can't type if you think misspelling every other word is faster. Its hard to read, and makes you look stupid.
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Personally, I think it depends on where you draw the line between child, teenaager, adult, and where the particular person is, mentally. Someone who is 12 might be a whole lot more mature than someone who is say, 16. Granted, thats unlikely, and isn't the 'general' case.
Im a bit hazy on it myself. My girlfriend lost her virginity at the age of 13, to her best friend who got her drunk at a party. Disregarding how it happened, if it hadn't been with a much older guy who got her drunk, I don't think I would've had a problem with it really. She's extremely mature for her age. I don't think sex is right if one of them isn't in the right state of mind to make a choice on consent (Whether that be drunk, high, young, drugged), or if they are not aware of the consequences of having intercourse. Age doesn't even need to be a part of the equasion, unless we are talking extreme ages (Under 10, say). Age does of course step into it when talking of an age limit on intercourse, but thats another matter entirely. In Denmark a lot of emphasis is put to bringing information to children early. I think Sexual Education starts in 5th grade, and is a once a week thing until about 9th grade, in most schools. What thats done is probably a few things. Im willing to bet its lowered the average age at which the general populace begins having intercourse, either because of previous ignorance of the subject, or renewed curiosity.. However, im also willing to bet its raised the amount of people that have stopped because they then know the consequences of what they are doing. Then again, its not really hard to find pornographic material in Denmark (Page 9 of BT hosts a nude or near-nude girl every day, sex ads in the backpages, or whatever), so I think its helped a lot. Im pretty sure other countries have similar things to Sex Ed, or have the same thing (Certain of USA in some cases), not so certain on which countries in Europe. | |
I myself think that Dan and Tom should just make a pop up window for all of the games containing porn or any other sexual occurences, something saying like they have before movies start. Like, this game contains sexual activity and is not meant for the youthful ages, are you ok with this?
And they chose ok or cancel. | |
This is getting a little flamey....
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I can agree on that one. I didnt know what porn was till 11 or 12 either. Besides, u dont go through puberty till 13 - 14 so at 12 its a complete waist. Also, who wants to have sex with a pimp like him/her if (s)he really did have sex with almost everyone in town (besides if (s)he did he's gay or a lesbo(depending on his/her gender)