Sariat wrote:

I actually agree with this in some ways, but disagree in others. Most of the guru's are friends with each other, so thats why they play thier games. But they never tend to play games whose friends don't play. There are alot of reasons though. And I think there is a clique in BYOND but anybody can get it by: a) respecting people b) obeying the rules and c) being friendly/good person . For instance, I don't think all of the "guru's" have joined in my game. Some did, but not all. Its just what appeals to them. Here are some that have joined my game of the top of my head: Zilal (Once), Skysaw(Once), Enlgish comes on regularly, Gazoot checks out the game, Gughunter checks it out when he can, Shadowdarke comes on every now and then,hmmm thats all off the top of my head.

I'd have joined it if I'd seen it in my pager (actually, I *did* join it once, but it was being hosted by Dan and Tom when they were trying to find that crash bug -- but that's not hosted by you). Generally, I don't check the Games Live! much, simply because I don't like browsing through 10 or so DragonBall Zeta games to see if anything reasonable is online.

I used to join newbie games rather often, though I've dropped that frequency off considerably, considering that my "biggest fans" (I have many biggest fans, apparently) are always in them.

I did visit Lode Wars, but only because I had already been keeping an eye out for it after reading Leftley's game page. I'll check out anything Leftley does, just because he has fresh ideas, and plenty of 'em!

Yep, that pervert has lots of fresh ideas. =)

Okay, maybe I took that one too far. =P

Im making a Monoply game but its a DBZ version so you probably wouldnt like it

he is right, besides there is already going to be a monopaly for byond.

Bootyboy wrote:

Well, I'm pretty good friends with a few of the "higher powered" BYOND programmers, and they don't play my games... mostly because they're 1) buggy, 2) boring, and 3) lame.

Ha! Unforunately I'm guilty of not trying your games yet (or Medieval Conquest), but not for any of those reasons. Mainly because I haven't had much time lately to play games, and because I still haven't managed to kidnap Tom and force him to make a Mac OS X version of BYOND! The day that comes out is the day I increase my BYOND production tenfold, I swear...

Not to be rude but you bought the Mac :P, just kidding at least its not a compaq, I will have my revenge compaq!!!

Imperial Realms is a lot like many other games in existence too :oP

Scoobert wrote:

Not to be rude but you bought the Mac :P, just kidding at least its not a compaq, I will have my revenge compaq!!!

Indeed, I did. And except for the glaring omission of BYOND, I'd say it [link]>kicks the snot out of any PC. ;-)

Untitled_Boy wrote:

Why is it that when another respected byond coder makes a game, all the other well known and respected byonders flock to it? I never see them join other games to try them out.

Well, never is obviously inaccurate.

Nonetheless, I rarely play any BYOND game, and it's not just because I'm really busy. I am often busy, but I still take time to play games...just not on BYOND. Lately I'm playing Zeus, before that Baldur's Gate (which I still need to finish), before that Diablo II, before that Civilization 3...and I now have my eye on some games hitting the market, but I want to wait until I've played more of what I have.

Why do I play those games and not BYOND games? Well, having recently played through many many BYOND games to review them for the channels, I can say:

1) They usually aren't finished. They usually aren't even really started.

2) They often have no instructions for playing, or poor instructions, or they just want you to wander around and figure it out. The latter is okay if the game really grabs you from the first instant, but if it doesn't, then what's the point in wandering around?

3) They don't give me motivation for playing. So I wander around and fight some stuff -- where is the hook right at the beginning that shows me I really want to play this game?

4) They usually require multiplayer, and I just want to play it myself, or try it before seeing if I can get a friend involved (I don't like playing with random people too often).

5) If they are multiplayer, they never support email turn-based, which is the best way I've found to play strategy games and such. Now that BYOND provides automated support for this, hopefully we'll see some games (and someday the DDT will add to that list!)

6) They don't tend to be aimed at my demographic.

7) Their interfaces or level of graphics often keep me from enjoying them. By level of graphics, I really mean "graphic appropriateness" -- one of the more fun little games to try out was done a while back with stick figures, and I loved it. The stick figures were perfect for the game they were a part of. But often the graphics just don't draw me in (some may say that makes me a shallow person, and if so it does -- it's just a description of something that keeps me from some games...if you look at my list of professional games above, however, *none* of them are even close to state of the art graphics).

Not all of these are bad things -- some are just things that mean a game isn't something I personally want to play, but it might work well for others.

If you stick a fork in an electrical outlet, just so you can glow a little and have your hair stick straight up... you might be a DBZer.

You might be a DBZer if, at a feng shui demonstration, you ask just how much ki needs to flow through your bedroom before you can go ssj.

If, when told you need to have at least three characters in your name, you type in "GokuFriezaCell"... you just might be a DBZer.

If sign into chatrooms and ask, "Age/sex/power level?"... you might be a DBZer.

I'd keep going on about how sad and obsessed DBZ fans are, except that there's two hours of Buffy on and I'm afraid she'll be disappointed in me if I don't watch her.