Mar 9 2007, 10:02 pm
In response to Smokymcpot
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Popisfizzy
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It's proper to call them elements, so there's no need to put a quote around them. At one point in time it was thought they were the smallest something could be broken down (the same with atoms, which means something like "indivisible", in Latin). The smallest particles something can be broken down into are called "elementary particles".
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Zagreus wrote:
Another thing I've never heard of called Golden Sun: You've never heard of Golden sun? Are you kidding me? That's one of the best RPG's I've ever played as well as one of the best RPG's on the GBA. Find it, and play it. In fact, I'm playing it right now =p. | |
Fire is not an element, water is not an element, earth is not an element, and air is not an element. You cannot make an element from any combinations of elements. This is in reality, of course.
I support your classical idea for your RPG however. I've always liked this style. | |
Smokymcpot wrote:
So In Closing.... Apparently according to everyone saying fire is not "Element" you are also saying that Air, Water, Earth, "Life" is not an element. Duh. | |
Yeah, its a very good game. Make sure you get the sequel as well, you can even transfer your save from the first game to the sequel to keep your items, levels and all.
BTW, Zagerus, the elements in Golden Sun are Venus, Jupiter, Mars and Mercury, which do correspond to what you said, except that Jupiter is both Wind and Lightning. | |
You could say that Lightning was closer to being a true, modern day element, since its the pure form of Fire and is a state of Matter, Plasma. Fire would be Lightning(electricity)'s reaction on an Object in world(sounds like coding!), but its still accepted as an element, since most people aren't that litteral nowadays.
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I have no clue what you're talking about. Lightning is electricity, which isn't an element. Electricity is due to the flow of electrons, an elementary particle. Fire and electricty are two different things. Fire is a chemical reaction, and electricity is as I stated before. Lightning isn't a state of matter, because it's not even a form of matter. I don't know where you're getting your info, but that source is very much incorrect.
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Depends how you define 'lightning'. When I'm talking about it, I generally mean the electrical discharge - if you're talking about what you actually see - that is, a bright flash - then that's caused by ionised gas=plasma.
But it still takes extremely fuzzy thinking to make lightning an element. | |
You people are dense and hard of hearing. I said knock it off with the stupid wether something is an element and start telling me elements to put in rpgs. Get it through your thick skulls, shut it with the element-nonelement crap!!!!!!
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Please don't issue personal insults. You're not helping your cause. At this point the participants are just debating the subject because they want to, not because they're "dense" or "hard of hearing".
That said, everything that needs to be said in element/non-element discussion has already been said, so I'd appreciate it if y'all got back on topic. =) | |
Elements are in the eye of the developer. When it is all said and done, you'll need to decide what you want to do.
In the trading card game, Pokemon, these are the elements I am aware of: Water Fire Earth Grass Dirt Ice Wind Electricity Light Dark Metal - Metal is a new element to the series I believe. PSI (like physic energy, many Psions would agree it is a unknown element) Anything you want can be an element. | |
LOL! I forgot all about that. I think I've seen it before though. Still made me burst out laughing. :)
Speaking of weird elements, if you looked at my last post, one of the games I found was using "Moon". How would you define "Moon" as an RPG element? Would it have a counterpart (Sun? I dunno). What would it look like? Would there be a story behind it? No science junk please. :) We're talking game design here. | |
Moon could be thought of as raw telekinetic force, as the Moon has an influence on gravity and tides. Alternately, it could give some really groovy dairy powers.
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"Element" does not have to strictly refer to an entry on the periodic table...
The word "element" means nothing more than "basic part"... If fire is a basic part in his system of magic, then it is an "element" of that system... | |
Yume_Nasuki wrote:
BTW, I took a poll today, and 100% of ppl said fire was an element, and completly disagreed with you guys. 100% of people aren't scientists, nor do they consider science to be a hobby. It doesn't matter what people you polled think, it matters what science says. | |
Revenant Jesus wrote:
Elements are in the eye of the developer. When it is all said and done, you'll need to decide what you want to do. I have to agree there. In a development sense, anything can be an element of the game. But I don't recall Pokemon calling them elements, I remember them saying in the original Red Pokedex "Type/Fire" or "Type/Ice" | |
Yeah but the card game calls them something else. I believe them call them Energy.
Fire Energy Ground Energy Metal Energy ect. | |
Revenant Jesus wrote:
Yeah but the card game calls them something else. I believe them call them Energy. there are energy cards, which are required to power attacks of the same type(i think they use other types with it too?) for example, fire type monster might need fire energy cards to attack. | |