Ok...I know outgoing-ists isn't a word..
BESIDES that...
How many of yall have a busy life that causes you really to not have much time on BYOND (or not as much as you would like)?
I sure do... I mean im not a BYOND-Junkie... im on for at least an hour a day (sometimes iconning) and i play probably about 8-9 hours a week...(sometimes more/less)
But MAN is it annoying to not have some time to just sit down, chill and play/make some games...
Also, its REALLY annoying not having time to CREATE/PRODUCE a good quality game that fans can play and like and just have fun...
I mean.. MOST of the coder's these days have wandered off and the newcomers to BYOND that want'so bad to learn how to code' don't really know what they're doing... They try and some even become GREAT coders, but they still rarely make new and exciting games anymore... Most of them just dont want to spend the time (or dont have the time)(It's all Naruto/DBZ games *no offense*) but there aren't any like SUPER COOL GAMES that stand out much anymore...
I'm not saying we can fix this problem but...
IT JUST PLAIN SUCKS... life gets in the way and it really ruins the whole BYOND-experience (that sounds gay but w/e).
* If you read through this whole post, i appreciate it... I just was wondering how many out there actually have this problem of not having the time to mess around a little on BYOND (im not talking like geeking on it for 14 hrs straight ppl...)
Thanks,
Tim
:P LilTimmy :P
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 Jan 17 2007, 4:17 am
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Ring of fire wrote:
I mean.. MOST of the coder's these days have wandered off Perhaps they are hiding from something? Could be... and the newcomers to BYOND that want'so bad to learn how to code' don't really know what they're doing... They try and some even become GREAT coders, but they still rarely make new and exciting games anymore... The good news of this is that, if someone -really- wants to learn, they can still manage on an hour's time each day. There are plenty of static resources that can be printed off and read during car rides, lunch breaks, etc. (/methinks of DM Guide, DM Ref, DM Demos, BYONDscape, and old forum posts that still remain from when these "coder's" were still newbies---great resources for following through and learning after their mistakes). The hour could then be spent practicing what one was self-taught during the reading, which would allow for even further learning. Since on the forums, you don't have to wait for a response, you could ask questions on the forums as needed before signing off and, if they were detailed and good enough, there is a high chance that someone will have answered some (if not all) of the questions by the next day's hour session. Now, I just got home from football workouts, and I'd like to go ahead and impart some knowledge from a speech that my head coach gave before letting us leave. He mentioned that, as we did our stationary, lateral jumps over hurdles today, he noticed many of the players struggling. However, they didn't cut around and, one way or another, each would get over the hurdle. So then he connected that life has many hurdles for all of the players, and the players have to manage to get over the hurdles to be successful (commitment, consistency, etc.). In this case, your hurdle might be your time constraint and, if you focus enough on the leap, there's surely a way in which you can manage yourself over it and on the side that you want to be on. Good luck with it, too, because I really like the DM language and I think it could benefit you greatly to learn it (most especially if you have plans to study in any field related to programming). Hiead | |
Flame Sage wrote:
It is simple to become great at programing in the DM language, all it takes is some logic, and memorizing / understanding (and knowing how to use) the DM Guide fully. while its important to read the DM guide, that's only the beginning of programming. if you wanted to write a book, you'd have to learn a language. you can memorize the definition to every word and still not be able to write a book, or even a sentence. similiarly, to be a good programmer you need to know more than just the rules of the syntax. the DM guide explains a little more than just the basic rules of the syntax, but as far as becoming "great" is concerned, its just the tip of the iceberg. I mean.. MOST of the coder's these days have wandered off and the newcomers to BYOND that want'so bad to learn how to code' don't really know what they're doing... They try and some even become GREAT coders, but they still rarely make new and exciting games anymore... most people aim too high. everyone wants to make the biggest and best game out there, but sometimes the simplest games can be very entertaining. castle, for example, is a very simple game that many people enjoy. people want to make big MMORPGs that rely on having a lot of content to be fun, but making content takes time and usually ends up boring the creator. a simple game with high replay value can be fun even with very little content. | |
Wow... Alot more replies than i thought...
Well yes...i know that if i were to go in great focus and try to put my mind to learn the DM lnguage i could... But i honeslty dont have the time of da/ nor the WANT to do so lol... Im not as into the coding as i am in iconning...though through a bit of reading inot codee and coding a few demo games myself i have improved my iconning skills and ultimatley learned alot of things that can effect icons and how to better the way they are made... I haven't really tried to better myself... I'm not planing on being the best iconer or coder...im nowhere near there... but i have read some of the DM guide as well as DM Ref. and MANY other libraries/demos/other resources that have taught me ALOT of just the basics... Thanks for all your posts lol... i just thought this would be an intersting topic for those who share the same time constraints as me lol... Too busy for BYOND :P Thanks yall, keep posting if you'd like. | |
Me, I have plenty of time nowadays but its kinda unspent. I'm pretty much bored of Byond games(few original ones that stick around, overplayed fun original games likes Hurricane, alot of fangames, and I've pretty much played DBZ until it got boring). Besides that, I'm a bit lazy on working on my own games..Sure I get a cool new idea once in a while, but doesn't seem like its worth it with the lack of players playing it(obviously I should make the game better or whatnot). Having one game published did keep me a bit inspired, but its unpublishing (due to a rise in qualifications) and the "difficulty" of finding helpers caused a lack of inspiration, lazinress(again) and some anger..0_0 But anyways, now I just hang out on the forums and developer faq helping people to the best of my ability..Strangely enough, there aren't many game programming communities as active as Byond's. 0_0
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Rule #1 for all hobbies:
Your life and well-being is always more important. If you need a game to keep going or so-help-you-God you'll go into work tomorrow and shoot up the place, then yes, playing a game is important, but only because it furthers your life and well-being (or in that case, the life and well-being of your co-workers ;-)). Otherwise, it's important to work, get good grades, find true love, have kids, and live happily ever after. | |
Jt said:
find true love Why do you think I even come here day after day!? ;) *looks at Jt a little too long* *winks and licks his lips* | |
Except the "have kids" part might be pretty difficult... and you'd darned well better believe I'm not adopting. ;-)
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Ry4n wrote:
Does that count as posting porn on the forums? Sorry, it's only porn if someone finds it sexually stimulating instead of, y'know, revolting. | |
Elation wrote:
Ry4n wrote: Once again, another crazy post from farm girl elly..Why you name yourself that? 0_0 | |
I should say that frightens me, but...it really doesn't.
That's more of a testament against myself than anything else, though. :( | |
All of this talk about whipped cream and man-nipples, and not even one serious comment about my meaning of life. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother. ;-)
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You bother because it's a good post? I didn't reply to it because there wasn't anything I could think to add, other than "I agree" and that's just a waste of time. I doubt anybody would want to read a thousand "Quoted for truth" or "I agree with this" and various other "I have no useful information of my own so I'm going to latch onto the person I'm replying to".
On the other hand, someone COULD try to argue against you, but...how? O.o I certainly couldn't make a convincing argument for "your health isn't as important as posting on the internet" because things like this happen.  Eek. On second thought, maybe it's worth a try...if I could convince just one person to ruin his life by obsessing over the internet instead of taking care of himself, then the internet will have one more person to humiliate for entertainment. No I'm not trying to volunteer myself at all. | |
I barely look at the DM Guide anymore, but I really should re-read it, to brush up my skills.