Anybody ever see this documentary? Its about 9/11 and how its possibly the biggest cover up in history. After watchin this, I'm pretty much floored with a new outlook on this event. Its a hour and 21 mins long, but definitely worth watching because this one actually provides information instead of just throwing out accusations. Anyways, watch it here:
http://www.loosechange911.com/
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Jul 25 2006, 12:42 pm
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Without watching it, allow me to predict the hocus-pocus conspiracy theory or theories presented in the video:
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In response to Ben G
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I looked at some of those... It's funny how one can go through and debunk that conspiracy-theory wack job of a video line-by-line...
--Vito |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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It probably pisses them off to no end and they hope by doing that people will stop spreading this BS around.
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In response to Vito Stolidus
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I'm not saying the video isn't BS, but you act like no conspiracy could ever be true.
The truth is, anything could be possible, especially with how easy it is to be deceiving, but most of the time, it's pointless to spend energy on the subject because even if you get some true hardcore evidence supporting a conspiracy, you'll never have enough evidence to convince people against the government's words. So, people are probably crazy for believing the video, but that doesn't mean they're wrong or it's full of lies. |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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# "Plastic explosive residue" was found on the rubble of the twin towers (which is, by the way, false, despite what all the conspiracy theorists think) But by the way, |
In response to Kunark
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It's true, some conspiracy theories might be true, but ones like this just... can't be. That's simply because you can't keep a secret that well, that long - especially when the secret could get Bush in trouble... the CIA would have leaked it years ago if it were true. Those currently working in the CIA are, for the most part, virulently anti-Bush and anti-Bush-Doctrine. If hard evidence to the contrary of popular belief on how 9/11 happened can ever be found (or fabricated well enough to withstand a cursory examination), you just know the major networks will be all over it. (See "How to be a News Anchor" by Dan Rather [does not actually exist])
You see, I know that conspiracy theories such as that one aren't true because if they were true, or even could be called true with a straight face on air by Dan Rather (which isn't a very strenuous test, have you ever seen the guy smile?), the American people would hear nothing but "Breaking news: [network name]'s own [insert left-wing reporter hack's name here] has just uncovered new evidence bringing to light the Bush Administration's role in the 9/11 plot - now live to [hack reporter's name] in Washington..." for six months, or until Bush is impeached. If that starts happening, I'll give the theory the time of day it takes to thouroughly debunk it. --Vito |
In response to Kunark
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Logic mandates that the least likely scenario be placed last through the course of reason; that the weight given to it should not be disproportinate to its probability.
Thus, it has become most tedious and highly irritating to watch left-wing hopefuls come out with hair-brained theory after titillating hair-brained theory in the vague hope that at least one of their highly irrational and emotionally-driven desires be proved fruitful. That video is formulaic, desperate, and clearly directed towards achieving a certain aim. You'd have to be daft to give it any measure of credibility. |
In response to Rockinawsome
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Rockinawsome wrote:
Thus, it has become most tedious and highly irritating to watch left-wing hopefuls come out with hair-brained theory after titillating hair-brained theory in the vague hope that at least one of their highly irrational and emotionally-driven desires be proved fruitful. Please don't judge the rest of us left-wingers by the behaviour of the conspiracy nuts. They're giving the side a bad name. :-/ |
In response to Crispy
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Crispy wrote:
Please don't judge the rest of us left-wingers by the behaviour of the conspiracy nuts. They're giving the side a bad name. :-/ Haha! Well then, I suppose you can't be all bad if you realize they are in fact "nuts". |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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Vito Stolidus wrote:
Those currently working in the CIA are, for the most part, virulently anti-Bush and anti-Bush-Doctrine. Money can go a long way. I bet a few million dollars will make these guys pro-Bush. Also, did you know that while the building was blowing up, people were saying they could here bombs going off, or what sounded like bombs, before the plan even hit, and while the plan hit, and even after it? Also, while the building was falling down, you could see the bottom of it exploding. How is that possible if it crashed from top to bottom? Bombs went off. That is the only explaination. Please note this is only my opinion from what I have heard from the people who survived the 9/11 incident and from all of the evidence. This is not a flame, just my opinion so if you want to respond, do it maturely. =P |
In response to GokuDBZ3128
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Money can go a long way. I bet a few million dollars will make these guys pro-Bush. Ohh, man... If such money transfers were ever discovered, it would be the #1,#2,and #3 news stories for two years. It's not like things like that are easy to hide... Yet more places a conspiracy could, and will, break down. I can make the same point about how fame and fortune is essentially promised by the "mainstream" media to anyone who denounces Bush publicly. Don't you think that if they can get to people like Cindy Sheehan (Army mom who went from complementing the President after her son's death to calling him a "terrorist" nowadays) they could get to people who were there on 9/11? Also, there's my point about the media wanting someone to say just that... If they could find one who could even pretend to be credible, don't you think they'd air him or her every hour for weeks? Thirdly, I know from experience that sonic booms can sould like explosions, and even can be heard after the aircraft has passed... Could that be what those people heard? It's entirely possible. If you had some audio tape of these "explosions", I could atempt to find out if they were indeed sonic booms. However, it is unlikely that such tape exists. (Right back to the media argument on this one) --Vito |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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Vito Stolidus wrote:
Thirdly, I know from experience that sonic booms can sould like explosions, and even can be heard after the aircraft has passed... Could that be what those people heard? It's entirely possible. It's entirely impossible, because the the Boeing 767's cruising speed at 35,000 feet is mach 0.8. At lower altitudes (and especially trying to steer into a building) it will be going much slower than that. |
In response to Mike H
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Yeah but I doubt they heard bombs. Fear makes people say, believe, and do stupid things.
Ever worked in constuction before? Or fired a gun? What that is is steel hitting steel. It's incredibly painful to the ears and loud. Something that massive buckleing under the stress could definitly cause a racket. Edit* Me: Also, who would plant those bombs? Let me guess...*somewhere in the background conspiracy nuts chime in unison,* "George BUSH did it!" Me: Break it down more than that could you please? *Again the castratti choir chimes,* "The Pentagon! The CIA! The FBI! (random acronym)! (anything remotely connected to military and/or intelligence)! Haliburton! Big oil! Enron!...save the Whales! Dolphins! and/or cute land animal! Damn Wal-Mart to the 23 Hells of the Forgotten Wastes!" Me: I'm sorry I was following your pandomonium for a little bit there, but I got lost once you started - *Again, but this time louder* "SEA TURTLES! ANGRY POLAR ICECAPS! GLOBAL WARMING! GAY RIGHTS!" Me: Ahhhh...nothing like the empty clammor of people who have lost their power, what power they lack, they make up for in amplification and conspiracy theories. |
In response to Mike H
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We are talking about operational maximums here, namely in that that is the speed in the operation manual. I'm willing to bet that suicidal maniacs could push those things to at least mach 1...
--Vito |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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have fun you guys, we'll not know the truth about that in our lives. national security and all that.
maybe this will keep you laughing till then http://view.break.com/111184 |
In response to Vito Stolidus
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Yeah but the planes had to slow down, which makes the theory less likely. I watched the plane slam into the building, I doubt it was traveling at that rate when it hit.
Most likely, it's the confused memories and/or lies of people who were there, or people who want attention. Possibly even people who wish to justify their stance against the President after being confronted with reality. |
It's BS. Anyone who buys in to this is too gullible for their own good.