People are acuatlly falling for the LimeWire tricks. On many sites, it says that LimeWire Free Version is legal. I'm warning you now, don't fall for that trick, because there is no possible way LimeWire can appear to be legal.
All the Links I look at say LimeWire is legal. But it's not.
Heres what I found on one website:
Federal Judge Issues ruling Against RIAA
Judge Stephen Wilson, the U.S. Federal District Court Judge hearing a claim by the RIAA against filing sharing companies such as Gnutella, Grokster and Streamcast, issued a ruling on Friday in favor of peer-to-peer file sharing services. Judge Wilson expressly stated that decentralized peer-to-peer software, such as LimeWire, is legal. Judge Wilson equated the use of such software as usable for both legal and illegal purposes, similar to the manner in which video recorders and copy machines can be used to infringe copyrights. Judge Wilson also recognized that the peer-to-peer file sharing services are not the source of illegally placed MP3s onto networks, but rather are the acts of the network users.
LimeWire had filed an amicus brief in the case. Lime Wire LLC is a privately funded start-up company and employs a team of workers for Gnutella software development. The LimeWire file-sharing software (http://www.limewire.com) allows anyone to publish material on the Internet. LimeWare offers free software that is available for download at www.limewire.com/download.
What a bunch of bull.
Sorry for taking up so much space.
I got that from one of the links.
I posted this to warn people not to download this program.
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 Feb 5 2004, 2:42 pm
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Feb 5 2004, 2:49 pm
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I don't think LimeWire is illegal. Are you 100% sure that LimeWire is illegal? I don't think it is.
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Many people always think different things about P2P software.
Its legal. Very legal. It is a software, where people can share many files. When a person uses it to give another some cracked software or illegal MP3, then it is the person that is doing something illegal. Im very sure if you read the end user agreements, it says something like, they take no libality in any damages or law suits regarding anything you download with their software. Its like saying Mod Chips are illegal. No they are not, you use them to play Imports, or back up your own game, so when your favorite game is cracked in half by your stupid younger cousin, you still have a copy to play. Now if you go into a video rental place, rent 50 games and burn them all, now your using your Mod Chip for illegal activaty, but your Mod Chip is still legal. Get it? I dont. lmfao :P | |
Depending on the country you live in, legality for different things like that can even change. In Canada, for example, I can download as many MP3s as I want for personal use(assuming my hard drive has enough space for them).
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Depending on the country you live in, legality for different things like that can even change. In Canada, for example, I can download as many MP3s as I want for personal use(assuming my hard drive has enough space for them). So it's illegal if you don't have the hard drive space :)? | |
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Hehehehe.... That would such,... "Hard-drive is out of free memory!" "OH Lord! Get in the car, Marie! We're moving! They're on their way!!!" ~Kujila | |
SSJ4_Gohan_Majin wrote:
People are acuatlly falling for the LimeWire tricks. On many sites, it says that LimeWire Free Version is legal. I'm warning you now, don't fall for that trick, because there is no possible way LimeWire can appear to be legal. Yet the quote you posted says that it is, in fact, legal. Certain uses of it are a gray area, but the program itself is legal. Says so right in what you posted. Did you read it? Like, all the words? Lummox JR | |
I don't see how it would be considered a gray area. If you copy a song and sent it to someone, that's copyright infringement, and they are an accomplice.
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Yeah this whole thing is kinda like Sony getting away with selling tools that can copy videos illegally!
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ getcase.pl?court=us&vol=464&invol=417 | |
There are some laws that have to do with media?/audio? that allow copying for certain uses in certain circumstances. I don't believe any of them have been tested in court in a circumstance like this yet, though.
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Lummox JR wrote:
Yet the quote you posted says that it is, in fact, legal. It's not labeled very well, but that was his point--the quote says it's legal, but in his opinion, quotes like the example he posted are BS. | |
Leftley wrote:
Lummox JR wrote: I wondered if that was what he meant. But why post it? Why bother airing his opinion that it's illegal, and state it as hard fact and an important warning, if a high court (and all logic) disagrees? Lummox JR | |
Gee, too bad court rulings aren't a matter of public record that are, when a multibillion dollar industry is involved, are widely reported on by many, many different media sources representing a variety of interests.
If it was, you could spend half a minute searching for reputable news sources to either confirm or deny that this ruling took place before proclaiming that it didn't. Now that I think about it, though, maybe it's not too bad... it could be good for you. I mean, if you were to stand up and loudly bray that something is BS when a few minutes worth of work would tell you that it isn't, wouldn't that be a little, I don't know... embarassing? But of course, we know that to have such boundless sources of information available at one's fingertips is nothing but a flight of fancy, a thing of purest science fiction... so by all means, carry on. (P.S.: http://s5.news.dcn.yahoo.com/search/ news/?adv=1&p=Judge+Stephen+Wilson+file+sharing&ei=UTF-8&c=n ews&o=a&s=&n=20&2=&3=04%2F01%2F03-05%2F30%2F03 ) | |
Of course tools are legal to use.
Just because I can use my hammer to smash your head in, dosent make THAT tool illegal. | |
You're still not quite getting it... you're either giving this individual too much credit or not enough. See, it's not the ruling he disagrees with, it's the existence.
He knows Lime Wire is illegal, so if he sees something (particularly on a Lime Wire site) saying that it is legal, he concludes that the contents of that message are false. Rather than weighing the value of his assumptions against available evidence, he is weighing the value of evidence against his assumptions, and he's in doing so, he's in very good company. | |
gee... if LimeWire and Kazaa are illegal, then you'd better get rid of that Windows/Linux/Mac computer... every friggin' one of them has an ftp client program built-in that allows you to send/receive files to/from another person or computer. Heck, might as well ban whatever web-browser you are using too- it has downloading capabilities, it must be illegal as well... especially if someone creates a website with illegal files on it.
again: the *tool* is not illegal- but how you use it can be. | |
Some stuff on LimeWire are legal. But some stuff that have a price on it, you can download free on LimeWire. A example is music. If you were to download, lets say Ludacris's album, Chicken n' Beer. That would be illegal.
And most people use LimeWire for songs. | |
SSJ4_Gohan_Majin wrote:
Some stuff on LimeWire are legal. But some stuff that have a price on it, you can download free on LimeWire. A example is music. If you were to download, lets say Ludacris's album, Chicken n' Beer. That would be illegal. As previously discussed, downloading songs varies from a legal gray area to positively okay in different places. Still, I have no truck with downloading a whole CD; that's just ridiculous. And most people use LimeWire for songs. Acknowledging that point and those above, how would that make LimeWire itself illegal? Lummox JR | |
The problem is that it was INTENDED for illegal activites, but they hide behind the "Oh, that's NOT what we wanted people to use it for!" excuse, and take no responsibility for their own program. And, because it's peer-to-peer, they aren't actually distributing anything themselves.
The problem is that it's nearly impossible to prove what their intent was, and that it's such a simple concept that for each one you shut down, two will take its place. | |