May 18 2003, 3:01 pm
In response to Loduwijk
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Jotdaniel
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You are very wrong. A 10 year old is not mature enough(or at least no 10 year old ive ever met)to to stop doing something that they like. There is a huge maturity level difference between a 10 and 20 year old. Pornography is bad, and they keep it away from minors because they dont have the self control to figure out what is bad for them. 18 isnt some magical age that makes everything not bad anymore, its the age thats been set because there has to be one, some people are more mature than others, but you cant judge when someones an adult by their maturity level, because its not feasible.
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Er... yeah, whatever, Loduwijk. I didn't read the entire post, but the last paragraph stood out a bit:
Loduwijk wrote: If you want to argue that sex is not for children then you must also restore the natural view of sex, engaging in it solely for the purpose of bearing children. Otherwise, it is arguable that the adults are just as much children as the children are, and therefore should themselves not engage in these things. Sex is not for children. Why? You're forgetting a little thing called "puberty". The average five year old hasn't got it yet. =P I could pick further holes in your argument, but I really can't be bothered. | |
Crispy wrote:
Er... yeah, whatever, Loduwijk. I didn't read the entire post, but the last paragraph stood out a bit: There are definitely too many holes in the argument to answer them all, but I'll mention two major ones: - Brain study clearly shows that children do not have certain areas of their brain developed related to judgment. In particular, until late teens certain aspects of the ability to understand consequences of actions are not developed. Therefore it is entirely appropriate for society to establish that children are not legally able to make certain decisions until they've reached an age where the typical person's brain development allows them to understand the consequences of their actions. - It's pretty historically amusing to think there was ever a "natural view of sex" in which it was only engaged in for bearing children. Since it's clearly observable even in the animal kingdom that sex is used for many other things (influencing others in the group, non-reproductive pleasure, etc), and since sex for pleasure or economic gain or influencing has been part of human behavior throughout recorded history. | |
The world should be safe for our children, but not our children's children, because children shouldn't be having sex.
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Once again, someone else takes what I was trying to say (but gave up on saying) out of my mouth and said it (okay, typed it) far better than I would have. Go Deadron! =)
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If you all are arguing about kids having sex this has to stop here, ok yes 10 year olds dint have the brain compacity to even comprehend sex, but then again our United States is so messed up 12 year olds are having babies, so think again when ya say kids arent having sex, your wrong.
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Well it seems that Deadron has answered your post before you even wrote it. Note that part about consequnces?
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A 10 year old has the capacity to understand sex, they just dont have the judgement or the maturity to abstain.
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Papas wrote:
If you all are arguing about kids having sex this has to stop here, ok yes 10 year olds dint have the brain compacity to even comprehend sex, but then again our United States is so messed up 12 year olds are having babies, so think again when ya say kids arent having sex, your wrong. Actually for a few years now (since during the Clinton presidency, oddly enough) teen pregnancy has been going down. Interestingly, statistics are showing a growing convervatism among teenagers on such issues, finding that they are much more negative on teen pregnancy and divorce and such than their predecessors. Some claim this is in part an outcome of welfare reform, which really changed the ground rules. | |
And you are ignoring the fact that the very quote of mine that is in your reply deals with that fact. Read it and think on it.
You could find more holes, eh? It seems that the only "hole" that you found was not one at all. Sorry to take so long to reply, but I have been a bit busy lately. | |
Deadron wrote:
- It's pretty historically amusing to think there was ever a "natural view of sex" in which it was only engaged in for bearing children. Since it's clearly observable even in the animal kingdom that sex is used for many other things (influencing others in the group, non-reproductive pleasure, etc), and since sex for pleasure or economic gain or influencing has been part of human behavior throughout recorded history. And that only goes to strengthen my argument. If sex is not just for reproducing, then it is not just for the physically mature. Not only that, but if you wish to use the animal kingdom for an example, then I shall use it as well: in the animal kingdom, it is clearly observable that sex is engaged in on occasion before the animal is physically matured. I have witnessed, first hand, animals that had sex that clearly were too young to produce offspring.[edit] And not only that, but that does not make it natural, it only makes it normal. I have yet to be shown any holes in my argument that you speak of. | |
I disagree. During my lifetime I have seen more adults unable to abstain than children. I have conversed on this matter with both adults and children, and they admit it themselves that it is so.
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Jotdaniel wrote:
You are very wrong. A 10 year old is not mature enough(or at least no 10 year old ive ever met)to to stop doing something that they like. There is a huge maturity level difference between a 10 and 20 year old. Pornography is bad, and they keep it away from minors because they dont have the self control to figure out what is bad for them. 18 isnt some magical age that makes everything not bad anymore, its the age thats been set because there has to be one, some people are more mature than others, but you cant judge when someones an adult by their maturity level, because its not feasible. If pornography is bad, then it does not matter what your age. Bad is bad. I have allready mentioned this in my original post. (when I said that the only way to argue that children should not partake of it, is to argue that the only perpose for it is child bearing, in which case adults should not have sex for other reasons either) | |
If you think that something is wrong, then it does not matter whether it is just as easy to go somewhere else to get it. If it is bad, you should get rid of it even if it is less likely to be used than something like kazaa.
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Hentai Nation by Papas [1 game, 1 player]
Alpha Girls,chat,fun and games. What more you want. Is this really acceptable? I mean we got little kids here who don't even know what hentai means. Well I think it should get kicked off... Um, I don't think any children would be phased by little animated 32x32 icons of naked woman. It may be in bad taste and stupid, but unless the BYOND game is showing full pronographic images, I don't think there's a real issue here. | |
Oh i see that not allowed but this is.
DBZ New Resistance by WTS_Leader [1 game, 18 players] Beta Clearly the best DBZ game ever made, now with 12 SSJ forms, > PORN < , and my Guild, called The Merry Moo Cow's (Banner made by Dark-Vegita). Stop zeta's in genral | |
Look, lay off of it. Shut the hell up and stop complaining about it, it wont do you any good, unless you just like to see your complaints in type.
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ya i nevr knew about porn games eithr but this is a gay subject...
o and btw im a kid and i have lots of sex..im 12 and iv had sex w/ just about evry1 in my town and like 5 times ea. its not that big of a deal...{o and that rumor about condoms work its not tru iv tried it w/ and w/o condoms and iv got the same results...}in fact iv had sex w/ my g/f sasha like 8 times 2day and 3 times wit my otha g/f lauren... hahahahahahaaha{This is a joke im just kidding} | |
Ur a fool. No offence but if u have that much sex at age 12, you must have some mental disability. Not to mention you might get problems with your body in later life(im not sure about that though). Having sex for pleasure might not be wrong, but it is if you have it 10,000 times like you make it seem so.
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