I'm at school right now, and teacher says he'll let me use byond, but there's only macs here...
just curious ;)
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 Sep 10 2002, 6:04 am
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If you are using Mac OS X - then in theory you should be able to either:
- run the Linux version, or - run the FreeBSD version (I believe the later since Mac OS X is roughly based on it...) But you will not have a graphical DS client. FOr that, you will beed to get something like virtualPC, install Win98se with it, and you'll get the best of both worlds in one box... | |
digitalmouse wrote:
If you are using Mac OS X - then in theory you should be able to either: Nope. The current Linux and FreeBSD versions are compiled for Intel only. Macs use PowerPC. Won't happen, just like running the current Linux version under LinuxPPC won't happen. But you will not have a graphical DS client. FOr that, you will beed to get something like virtualPC, install Win98se with it, and you'll get the best of both worlds in one box... Right, though VPC with Win98 on OS X is horribly slow in my experience. I've said some things about this whole issue before. | |
Yeah, very slow. But Win95 is much slower, that's why I don't use my MAC box for much gaming (it's not a very good MAC anymore since the processor seemed to blow up but not stop working causing it to be REALLY slow).
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Air Mapster wrote:
Nope. The current Linux and FreeBSD versions are (sound of buzzer) Wrong answer! But thanks for playing! http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ - Linux for PPC - been around for some time, http://www.linuxppc.com - but the link is broken at the moment, http://www.suse.com - SUSE Linux has been supporitng axp, i386, ia64, ppc, ppc64, s390, and sparc architectures for several years now, http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppc.php3 - my favorite distro, Mandrake, also does a decent PPC port... After re-reading your answer - I now understand that running Linux on Mac hardware is not the question, but instead it is the question of running Linux/FreeBSD programs under the shell of MacOS X. Since many people have gotten the Apache webserver and other Linux/FeeBSD-centric applications to successfully re-compile under the MacOS X shell, I don't see the problem in attempting to get BYOND Linux/FreeBSD to do the same. Just needs to be attempted by those competent in that area. Since I'll be getting a G4 around Christmas time, I guess I may be the one to take a crack at it, unless someone else beats me to it first! (I'm certainly no expert, but am willing to give it a shot - I've had some good experiences with getting Linux to do my bidding on occasion) :) | |
digitalmouse wrote:
Since many people have gotten the Apache webserver and other Linux/FeeBSD-centric applications to successfully re-compile under the MacOS X shell, I don't see the problem in attempting to get BYOND Linux/FreeBSD to do the same. Right, I'm fully aware of LinuxPPC, Yellow Dog, etc. I've dabbled around with those a bit on my older Mac. But the point is that only Dan or Tom have the source code to BYOND, so only they can recompile it for LinuxPPC, Mac OS X, or whatever. Nobody is going to take the current Linux/x86 or FreeBSD executables and run them on a Mac without VirtualPC, period. As much as you might like to try, it's not gonna happen unless they decide to give you the source code. ;-) I don't see that happening any time soon (heck, they won't even give me the source code, and I know them personally) so the best we can hope for is to get them access to a machine and motivation to do it. I can take care of the first part, but I'm not so sure about the second. A recompile ought to be pretty painless if/when it happens, as you say. | |
Air Mapster wrote:
As much as you might like to try, it's not gonna happen Oh, I guess I mis-spoke when I said that - I know that I'd have to pry the code from their cold, dead hands before they would release it freely. What I should have said was: "Since I'm getting a G4 around Christmas time (a present to myself), and I have experience in re-compiling stuff for Linux and a bit for FreeBSD, I would be honored to try an attempt a build for the MacOS X shell. Assuming that legalities and licensing were dealt with to everyone's satisfaction." That's a bit more accurate to my thinking at the time... Curious: why did this get moved to 'Off Topic'? Certainly seemed appropriate discussion for Q&A... | |
Air Mapster wrote:
Right, though VPC with Win98 on OS X is horribly slow in my experience. I've said some things about this whole issue before. As I stated in the thread you mentioned, VPC with Win98 is extremely slow for me is OS X as well. I've found the booting up in OS 9 fixes this problem, as VPC runs fast enough for me to both use BYOND and play the occasional game of Team Fortress Classic. Having to boot up in OS 9 everytime I want to use Windows is incredibly annoying though. | |
SilkWizard wrote:
Having to boot up in OS 9 everytime I want to use Windows is incredibly annoying though. Yep, and I'm not willing to do it. ;-) Actually, since I got my 100 mbit switch, the network is fast enough that this works better than the VPC I tried at the Apple Store. Not too shabby. | |
Better use an emulator, then, or go to a better school. There is no Mac version of BYOND.
Lummox JR