Ok this message is too Nadrew and all u other coders who think ur all that and can rag on newbies, Nadrew sayed to me that ragging on newbies motivates them, that may be so but, that dosnt motivate me and I think lots others agree.

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I have seen posts for help and u tell them rude crap that is pointless, and nadrew told me my posts are pointless cuz they have typo's and I see stuff about that too u guys go off wondering off the subject about somting rude like talking about the persons typo's... I DONT CARE ABOUT TYPOS.

Now I know its not good for ur typing and it helps ur typing skills but thats there problem NOT UR'S.

I know I will get responses to this that are gonna be rude but I dont care so u can tell me that I dont know sh** and that im stupid and every thing else u guys tell newbies.

I can jsut imangine u guys as newbies, I dont think that u would like it if people that were experienced ragged on u and crap and u guys dont know ur self cuz u arnt newbies, you were though but still it changes over time,

Nadrew if u just found out about byond yesterday and u wanted to make ur game u dont know if u would be confused or not and I bet u would ask some kind of qeustion that would have a reply that u is rude and u wouldnt like and u would say somting back.

So my point to this whole thing is why dont u people that know what ur doin, MIND UR OWN BUSSINESS and just help if u can dont rag on them about there typo's and how they ask questions if u can help and want to just do it,

if u dont want to help then DONT REPLY cuz u guys do it all the time, a newbie will ask for somting and if u read it and u dont like the way its wrote

u will give them crap that has notin to do with what they asked, and u guys tell me and other who ask it motivates them, maybe for u but not all, so tell me the point to being rude to newbies?

Good games don't come easy. They take time, effort, and organization.

You think we don't remember being newbies, that we don't know what it's like to be a newbie? You're wrong. It's because we know exactly what it's like to be a newbie that we post the way we do.

The goal of every newbie is to become a non-newbie... to master the code. Now, who knows better how to do this... a newbie, or a master/mistress?

Stealth, imagine that we, the entire BYOND community make t up to you: will the code masters/mistresses teach the newbies the way the newbies think is best, or the way the code masters think is best? Would you say let the newbies decide how the code masters/mistresses will teach? If so, why? If the newbies know how to teach someone to code, why aren't they the masters/mistresses?

The most important thing we can teach you isn't "how to code blah blah blah blah," it's how to start thinking like a coder. In fact, until you learn how to think like a coder, we can't even teach you "how to code blah blah blah blah."

You might think you're a decent coder because you know "lots of code." That's like saying you're a good musician because you have lots of clips of music and you know how to mix them up a bit. Yes, it may be good enough for your purposes, but as long as you keep making music that way, you'll have to keep coming back to the actual musicians and asking them to make you a new clip, every time you find a new thing you need for a song. So, one day, instead of just handing you a new clip, your musicians say, "We're going to teach you how to compose." Yes, composing original music is more work, but once you've learned it, you can make anything you want.

It's like this: yes, we were newbies. Yes, we're no longer newbies. This doesn't just mean that we know how to code... it also means that we know what it's like to have been a newbie, and how we came from being a newbie into being a non-newbie. It's not just a matter of hanging around here a certain amount of time, or of "knowing [x] amount of code." There's actually a shift in your thinking you have to go from, from non-coder to coder. We have undergone this shift.

For the record, Nadrew isn't qualified to teach fish to drink, in my incredibly unhumble opinion... and he definitely doesn't have room to insult anyone. He may be (for all I know) developing into a decent coder, but he doesn't know how to think like a teacher. A lot of the people who are "teaching newbies" right now, though, are worse, because they don't know what they're doing, and they're teaching newbies all kinds of things that simply aren't true. You know the saying, "The blind leading the blind?" This is what I think of when I see messages from most people claiming to have mentored someone.

Actually, that's not what I think of. I think of Beavis and Butt-head copying the answers off each other's tests.

Anyways, to the point at hand: you (newbies) don't know how to code. We (gurus, code masters and mistresses, etc) do. This means that if you want to learn how to code, you have to be nice to us, and if we want to use you as foot stools or beverage coasters, we can. The alternative is teaching yourself to learn how to code.

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Also, why do we nitpick about the way you write your question? Because coding requires that you express yourself precisely, say exactly what you mean, and don't take any shortcuts. If you can't do all of those things... without even thinking about it... you're never going to master coding.

Coding is language. Language is coding. If you do not have love and respect for language, you will never have "the feel" of the code.

You think we don't remember being newbies, that we don't know what it's like to be a newbie? You're wrong. It's because we know exactly what it's like to be a newbie that we post the way we do.

You might think you're a decent coder because you know "lots of code." That's like saying you're a good musician because you have lots of clips of music and you know how to mix them up a bit. Yes, it may be good enough for your purposes, but as long as you keep making music that way, you'll have to keep coming back to the actual musicians and asking them to make you a new clip, every time you find a new thing you need for a song. So, one day, instead of just handing you a new clip, your musicians say, "We're going to teach you how to compose." Yes, composing original music is more work, but once you've learned it, you can make anything you want.

It's like this: yes, we were newbies. Yes, we're no longer newbies. This doesn't just mean that we know how to code... it also means that we know what it's like to have been a newbie, and how we came from being a newbie into being a non-newbie. It's not just a matter of hanging around here a certain amount of time, or of "knowing [x] amount of code." There's actually a shift in your thinking you have to go from, from non-coder to coder. We have undergone this shift.

For the record, Nadrew isn't qualified to teach fish to drink, in my incredibly unhumble opinion... and he definitely doesn't have room to insult anyone. He may be (for all I know) developing into a decent coder, but he doesn't know how to think like a teacher

Anyways, to the point at hand: you (newbies) don't know how to code. We (gurus, code masters and mistresses, etc) do. This means that if you want to learn how to code, you have to be nice to us, and if we want to use you as foot stools or beverage coasters, we can.

The alternative is teaching yourself to learn how to code.

Coding is language. Language is coding. If you do not have love and respect for language, you will never have "the feel" of the code.

I once tried to remove all emotions from myself as sort of a "experiment". Dont try to do that, really.