I myself am not very intelligent when it comes to programming, but I can understand given things.. words that sound Greek or Latin in origin off the bat(like enigma, or ultimate) are pretty popular. However... someone just made a key called "Ulterior Motive Gaming"
If I'm not mistaken, this means, "Second, unlikely, and dishonorable gaming." Wow.... WOWWW....
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 Feb 15 2010, 6:26 am
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Jamckell wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, this means, "Second, unlikely, and dishonorable gaming." Wow.... WOWWW.... You are mistaken. Ulterior motives are hidden agendas, unstated reasons for supporting something that are ancillary to the stated reasons (if any). Depending on intent they can be considered sneaky, but in general it's not that uncommon to encounter ulterior motives in everyday life. The fact of the matter is all but a very few people will always play one or two cards close to the vest. The name might be a little nonsensical, but not in the way you've misinterpreted it. Incidentally, the fact that you're not familiar with this phrase steps all over your point. Lummox JR | |
Inorite? People should be more like Masterdan. We can all learn something from him.
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Proteen wrote:
Inorite? People should be more like Masterdan. We can all learn something from him. Since when? | |
Lummox JR wrote:
Lummox JR I really want to know what Popisfizzy and Lummox's IQs are. Ooh and Stephen. I wonder who has the highest IQ on BYOND. O.o.... | |
IQ isn't really a good measure of intelligence, despite the name. For starters, it's basically meaningless for anyone who isn't a child (It's defined in terms of a ratio to what an average 18-year-old would know - that is, it's supposed to measure how 'far ahead of the class' a kid is).
There aren't really any good ways to quantify how intelligent someone is. | |
Jp wrote:
IQ isn't really a good measure of intelligence, despite the name. For starters, it's basically meaningless for anyone who isn't a child (It's defined in terms of a ratio to what an average 18-year-old would know - that is, it's supposed to measure how 'far ahead of the class' a kid is). I believe you're thinking of the poorer generic IQ tests. Most real IQ tests I know of are recognizing anomalies, patterns, reading comprehension, simple math (applied or asked in a mis-construable way), and things of that nature. Actual knowledge is rarely (if ever) applied, beyond basic mathematics that is. And yes, IQ is not a good measure of real intelligence, simply an indication of how quickly you can process certain abstract concepts. | |
Popisfizzy wrote:
Jamckell wrote: "Not only does the English Language borrow words from other languages, it sometimes chases them down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and goes through their pockets." EDIT: Enigma - Origin: 1530–40; < L aenigma < Gk aínigma, equiv. to ainik- (s. of ainíssesthai to speak in riddles, deriv. of aînos fable) + -ma n. suffix of result Ultimate - Origin: 1645–55; < LL ultimātus (ptp. of ultimāre to come to an end), equiv. to L ultim(us) last, most distant (see ultima ) + -ātus -ate 1 Those seem pretty authentically Latin/Greek to me rather than just sounding like it. So ultimately, the question as posed has answered itself. :D | |
EGUY wrote:
[Insert all the stuff that didn't add to the conversation and which I was already aware here] I was specifically asking about the last bit, where he said "are pretty popular". Enigma and ultimate are pretty thorougly in the English lexicon at this point, just as ham, beef, etc. are (which are Latin in origin, by way of Middle French). The remark was fairly... inane, hence my profoud query of "wut". | |
Jamckell wrote:
I myself am not very intelligent when it comes to programming, but I can understand given things.. words that sound Greek or Latin in origin off the bat(like enigma, or ultimate) are pretty popular. However... someone just made a key called "Ulterior Motive Gaming" The intelligence of people on BYOND is right. Ulterior is a secret, or unknown. A motive is a reason to do something. 1. Lying beyond what is evident, revealed, or avowed, especially being concealed intentionally so as to deceive: an ulterior motive. 2. Lying beyond or outside the area of immediate interest. 3. Occurring later; subsequent It might even be possible this key is to be used by a member with the key Ulterior Motives to publish things under, or something. I guess we'll never know. | |
No, I'm thinking of most IQ tests. I perhaps phrased it badly. It is intended for children, and is even more meaningless for adults than it is for children.
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Popisfizzy wrote:
EGUY wrote: I was responding to the OP rather than you. I just like to Reply With Quote because I think it preserves some manner of a train of thought. | |
EGUY wrote:
I was responding to the OP rather than you. I just like to Reply With Quote because I think it preserves some manner of a train of thought. [link] | |
AJX wrote:
And yes, IQ is not a good measure of real intelligence, simply an indication of how quickly you can process certain abstract concepts. Oh, good. Because an IQ test done in my childhood showed I had was mentally gifted in some areas (e.g., logic, analytic behaviour). And we all know I can't be smart, given the things I did. =P | |
Android Data wrote:
Oh, good. Because an IQ test done in my childhood showed I had was mentally gifted in some areas (e.g., logic, analytic behaviour). According to todays standard IQ tests (to which I scored an insanely average and very disappointing score), it says my biggest area is pattern recognition and problem solving. So in other words, I'm a repetitive solution... like Duct Tape. | |
Jp wrote:
No, I'm thinking of most IQ tests. I perhaps phrased it badly. It is intended for children, and is even more meaningless for adults than it is for children. IQ tests only show the motivation someone has at doing something that requires critical thinking. Maybe some very intelligent people out there take the IQ test and score low, yet are able to process and understand things quite more clearly and easier than others who score higher. Tests are but that, a challenge of actually taking the test. | |
EGUY wrote:
I was responding to the OP rather than you. Then learn to reply to the correct post if you're using message view (i.e., what PHPBB uses). It will make you sound like less of an rambling idiot who's making no sense. | |
Popisfizzy wrote:
EGUY wrote: Whoa now, Mr. Grumpyface, I at least had something to try and contribute rather than 'wut'. I was saying that the words enigma and ultimate are pretty Greek/Latin in origin as opposed to just being fancy words made up to seem Greek/Latin like all the butchered dead languages that get used in entertainment/fiction writing/Harry Potter. The OP seemed to imply that the latter was true. I can't really judge if ultimate and enigma are any more Latin-sounding that any other Latin/Greek word though so maybe there's something valid there. The quote was put there to share a common insight that English, throughout history, has adopted many other words from other languages aside from Greek/Latin origin. French, Spanish, and other languages have been taken into English's repertoire along with plenty of neologisms (hey, a fancy technical term!). People use words like ultimate and enigma today because people have been using them for 300+ years and they work, I don't know if there's a better way to put that. Some of these foreign words are also 'popular'/overplayed as the OP puts it. His post kind of brought up why people use cool sounding words. I guess that would be to sound cool/refined/sophisticated, or to further explore English's gross cache of words with the same meaning. (If you want a fun drinking game, look up any philosophical debate on Amazon.com forums and take a shot when someone whines about being the target of an 'ad hominem' argument.) So my reply off your own reply was to further that particular line of thought - that that particular part of the OP's post in question was a bit odd. This is all framed by the peculiar notion that anyone cares about what anyone else's key name actually is. | |
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