What do you think of this:
I created a Naruto game from scratch... I coded/mapped all for myself, however some icons are ripped from a popular Naruto Game, what would you think of this ?!
ID:183043
 Nov 12 2007, 10:23 am
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Nov 12 2007, 10:31 am
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Poal
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...Umm well BAD! People will look at graphics and icons before game play ALWAYS! If you desperately need an iconer and if you coded everything yourself I might offer my services...But not a lot...
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I already posted at classified adds... i guess i would just need new bases coz the turfs and mobs are good (i think)
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Poal wrote:
...Umm well BAD! People will look at graphics and icons before game play ALWAYS! If you desperately need an iconer and if you coded everything yourself I might offer my services...But not a lot... Nice to see the generalizations you placed in there. I'll have you know that there are several gamers (myself included) that as long as the graphics dont clash and look horrid really dont care where the graphics came from, if there are graphics at all. Of course, we are talking about the rather primitive visitors of the anime section here. . . | |
Can u send me files or something I wanna see what I'll be iconing for first...
By files I mean host files or run files or just set a world up... | |
The real bad thing about ripped icons are the style they are drawn, compared to any icons you try to draw. You can have a scoop of mint-chocolate chip, but if you add strawberry ice cream, it won't taste like mint-chocolate chip ice cream anymore.
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I meant an average person, they will look at the game if they don't like it they won't give the game=play a try.
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Its fine. Icons are the least important part of a game in my view.
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Poal wrote:
...Umm well BAD! People will look at graphics and icons before game play ALWAYS! If you desperately need an iconer and if you coded everything yourself I might offer my services...But not a lot... lol... Speak for yourself, I look at gameplay first and I hate it when people log in the instantly log out based on graphics without even seeing how the game plays. | |
Poal wrote:
I meant an average person, they will look at the game if they don't like it they won't give the game=play a try. Well thats my point, if they arent looking at the gameplay then they arent looking at the game in the first place. A screen shot isnt enough to judge a game, not by far... | |
Agreed. I mean, sure, having good graphics/sounds/etc is nice, but it is in no way a requirement. Especially for those of us who grew up in the Age of the True Gamers (Or, the period during which all that there really was was NES, SNES, Atari, etc, and graphics tended to be on the rather sucky side (Not as much for SNES, but still so) and you pretty much had to judge a game based purely on gameplay or not play a game at all xD)
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Never, ever take graphics from another BYOND game unless:
A) The graphics used in that game are officially public domain. B) You have the author's permission. Using graphics that someone custom made specifically for their own game in your game is bad on so many levels, and it will instantly make your game crap. Plus it tends to piss off the legitimate creators. | |
Dragonn wrote:
Poal wrote: Even so, there arent any good games in the anime section. save for a few. Games are not for blind people. We like eyecandy thankyou very much. You have stolen graphics in a game and call it nonrip just because theyre not as important. Thats just ignorant and lazy. If good graphics were so unimpotant as you say, why do we want them? Its better if you just use placeholders(as in eventually they will be changed). MUCH better. | |
Dragonn wrote:
Its fine. Icons are the least important part of a game in my view. If there the least important why not just make your game a MUD instead of taking others work? | |
Jamesburrow wrote:
Agreed. I mean, sure, having good graphics/sounds/etc is nice, but it is in no way a requirement. Especially for those of us who grew up in the Age of the True Gamers (Or, the period during which all that there really was was NES, SNES, Atari, etc, and graphics tended to be on the rather sucky side (Not as much for SNES, but still so) and you pretty much had to judge a game based purely on gameplay or not play a game at all xD) I know, people who's first games were on the PS2 will play a 2d game like on SNES and think it sucks because of the graphics, they dont even -consider- the gameplay, they truly missed on on being able to actually appreciate that. Did they ever consider the reason its called a game in the first place is because it has gameplay, not the graphics? Checkers isnt very graphical but its still considered a game whereas watching a movie with awesome graphics will -NEVER- be considered a game (hope to god. -_-). Bah, nevermind, people who judge a game on graphics alone will never be able to comprehend the truth of what Im saying with their superficial outlook on games. The fact is, you can have a game without graphics, but you cant have a game without gameplay. The word gameplay itself is rooted in the word game, its undeniable. A game without graphics can still be good, but a game without gameplay will suck no matter how good its graphics are. And Legendary you basically said my game sucks because of its graphics, the 80 people on there think otherwise. They would refer to you as a noob on there, because you would log in, see the graphics, then instantly log back out, and that would tell them you judge a game based on graphics first, then only maybe check out the gameplay. The 80 that are there play because of the gameplay depth and the roleplaying. And you may log in and not get every skill in the game and get Super Saiyan 9623583043 punching a peebag in the first 5 seconds, because its not a rip and things have to actually be -unlocked- through -hard work-. *shocking new concept* But your wrong only a few of my graphics are ripped, 90% of the turfs are original, excluding trees and certain other turfs that are still used on some of the maps, maps which were designed early on in the game, such as earth. Then most noticeably some of the player icons themselves, such as certain Changelings, Humans icons, Bio Androids, and Majins are ripped. But Im sure you only play as a Saiyan, something most people think lowly of in my game, so you would have only seen those icons. Yadrats, Kanassajins, Yukenojins, and other such races have original icons. Also 90% of the effects (blasts, beams, aura) are original, all beams are original, 95% of blasts, and 40% of auras. Also the ones that are ripped, what of them? Sure they appeared in other games but they are still nice looking quality graphics whoever made them. Not like they are subpar graphics where the people are stick figures and the turfs are monotoned blotches. | |
I suggest to use them temporary, when people will like your game you should find iconer easier and then slowly replace all icons with original ones
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Poal wrote:
I meant an average person, they will look at the game if they don't like it they won't give the game=play a try. I agree completely with this statement. | |
Dragonn wrote:
Jamesburrow wrote: I have been here longer than you have. I know what a good game is. Ever think that people are TIRED of SEEING the SAME things? Your game may have different concepts, which is good, but if its not going to be nice on the eyes then you lose a good bit of fanbase. You sir are just lazy. You sit there saying your game is nonrip, with ripped artwork. Explain to me whats fun about your game's battle system. Im really interested in seeing how "advanced" the same [boink] in every other game is. Do not mistake me for some noob. I agree that skills, transformations, and other abilities should be unlocked through hard work, And i hate the spam leveling with a passion. and not like the crap all over byond anime currently. But i disagree with you saying your game is non rip. Sure the programming is original so you say. Thats good. But that doesnt justify everything else. If your going to be halfassed, then dont bother. You are using stolen graphics however nice they may be(which they are not) And yes the player icons you have really suck. Its the same crap in every game. No different animations, or anything, just crap. But feel free to cover that up and still call your game non rip. And i have actually tried your game out. The training is just the same "click and wait for numbers to go up" crap. And none of those icons you mentioned were original. Theyre nothing but edits of the ripped base youve got. Nice try though. The Battle system is anything but that. Nothing more than clicking the same verbs + a few more. Other than that and a few things, the game isnt bad. And way to read me. I do prefer saiyans, but i also enjoy playing as Namekians, Humans and Bio Androids. Now, Of course Gameplay is more important, that is fact. But as i said, that certainly doesnt mean people should just block out artwork in a game. Ripped icons do make the game a rip, less important or not. Placeholders are an exception though, because theyre temporary. | |