ID:185058
 May 9 2006, 9:22 am
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Anyone with any knowledge of cars know if a 1988 VW Fox LE is stick shift? Yeah, I don't know.
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I think he cares otherwise he wouldnt be asking the question in the first place?
Truly why do people on these forums have to act and reply to posts like d*cks? | |
I dont think he was being rude, he was just implying who would want an old ass car. For $500 I think its a friggin' deal.
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XzDoG wrote:
for $500, I thought it was a deal. $500 for an 18-year-old Volkswagen? Good gads man, it's not a collectible! That's the only way the value could even be considered anywhere near $500 on a car almost 2 decades old. Normally vintage cars (ones that were high-end cars to begin with, and kept in shape) do rise considerably in value once they hit 20 years old, but clearly an obscure VW model is not in that class. Now a '98 car for $500, that might be okay. But 18 is friggin' ancient for a car. Lummox JR | |
Dark_Shadow_Ninja wrote:
500 isn't bad, if it has like 100k miles on it... It's really bad considering the age. 18 years is way way too many winters on the average car. Lummox JR | |
Shattered wings wrote:
I think he cares otherwise he wouldnt be asking the question in the first place? It was a valid question. To buy an 18-year-old non-collectible car for anything but a stint on Junkyard Wars is insane. If it was in more or less reasonable shape then it might make a good trade for a sandwich. And FYI, masking language doesn't make it okay. Nor is the S word, which you've used elsewhere, acceptable on the forums. Lummox JR | |
Good god, where do you live?
I bought a 20 year old Honda Accord for $700, and that was a great deal, and that wasn't just my misknowledge. Down here, 500 gets you a crap-wagon, 1000 gets you something that might run (but more than likely it has lots of problems), and anything decent is around 2k. A '98 would probably cost from $4,000-5,000. Granted, an 18 year old Volkswagon is probably going to be in terrible shape, but you must live in a car-buyer's paridise. | |
You be suprised how well a 18 year old car can run. If, and this is a big if, the person takes proper care of it. (Oil changes etc.). Hell, I have a 26 year old dirt bike that runs like a champ. Cars arn't all that diffrent from dirt bikes, so no 500 isn't bad. It all really depends on how the person before it treated the car.
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Kunark wrote:
Good god, where do you live? Winters up here are no great shakes, so it wouldn't surprise me if there's a regional effect going on too. Most cars simply don't make it that long. But I'd actually bet $700 on the Accord if it was in good shape, because Hondas are notoriously reliable. The same cannot be said of Volkswagens, which are more often than not cheapy rustbuckets. (Case in point: Ask anyone who grew up in the late '70s or early '80s how well all those Beetles on the road aged.) German overengineering is no substitute for good old Japanese reliability. Lummox JR | |
I couldn't agree more with that. Japanese cars are far more reliable. I wasn't thinking clearly at first, but that volkswagen probably is craped out by now.
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Okay you must know who the owner of the car is then, the owner couldve kept it in really good shape you dont know that, and if anything he can always replace parts cheaply. Who says you have to go out and buy a 42,000$ lincoln navigator? My dad has a 30 year old ford truck and it runs fine he never had to get anything on it except new tires and a spark plug. He greased and oiled it up himself and the thing runs just as good as a '06 truck.
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Shattered wings wrote:
Okay you must know who the owner of the car is then, the owner couldve kept it in really good shape you dont know that, and if anything he can always replace parts cheaply. In what world are parts for imports, let alone long discontinued models, let alone German cars, cheap? Furthermore in what world are Volkswagens the sort of cars that are kept in and stay in good shape? Who says you have to go out and buy a 42,000$ lincoln navigator? Well gads, nobody. A used car is great, but buy the right one at the right price. My dad has a 30 year old ford truck and it runs fine he never had to get anything on it except new tires and a spark plug. He greased and oiled it up himself and the thing runs just as good as a '06 truck. Well yes, but trucks tend to last because they tend to be built to last. You'll notice Volkswagen isn't famous for its trucks. Ford and Chevy have built brands on their reliability and ease of maintenance, so they're intended to run a long long time. Low-end Eurocars, particularly most Volkswagens, are not. Lummox JR | |
Depends on the condition of the car. If it still runs well, and it is the only car at that price, he should go for it. You are right about cars aging different. Around here, rust/weather doesn't really effect the car much. Next to no snow, so no road salt to enduce rust and paint decay. No overly hot summers to cause metal warpage and weakened paint.
'Round here, cars can last for 20+ years on the original engine if taken care of. But you are right about finding parts, an old VW might be a bit tough to get parts for. My bosses mom drives a car with around 250k miles on it. I am not totally sure what it is, I am wanting to say it is BMW or VW, but one of the upper class models. We don't count a cars age by the winters it has seen but rather miles, because for us, it means the most. | |
Just make sure it has not been sitting for years, because if it has been stuff like oils seals, and varies other fluid seals will crack and leak, not to mention hoses too, plus oil sitting still in the engine for along time is just bad news.
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Lummox JR wrote:
Low-end Eurocars, particularly most Volkswagens, are not. maybe that's true of 'low-end Volkswagens' built and/or imported to the U.S., but that's not the case here in Germany. Neighbor has an early 70's Volkswagen, never needs anything more that the standard oil change, and new tires/sparkplugs/belts. true. it was rebuilt once (new seals all around), but that was only about $100 in parts. heck i use to have a 1969 Toyota Corona Mk2, bought for $100, spent probably another $300 rebuilding the engine in 1989, and it ran quite well, getting better gas mileage than new cars at the time. it all depends on how you take care of the car. properly done, a car should last for 25 years or longer (assuming spare parts are available, if necessary). | |
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