DarkCampainger wrote:
I'm still waiting for a good RPG DS game -_- Check out Lost in Blue and Trace Memory coming out soon. Also, Lunar: Dragon Song and Mario & Luigi 2, that should be very good RPGs to satisfy you. And oh, Harvest Moon if your into that type of game. It makes good use of the touch screen. | |
Lol, a UMD that isn't even a game? A UMD on PSP, that I will be able to watch on DVD format on my DVD player as well? Lol. The fan base of FF7 is so enormous that no matter what you think of the game, and no matter if the movie is a stinker, it will have phenominal sales. Also, I believe it will only be released in a PSP-playable-only format. | |
I saw Lost in Blue, comes out next month =D
Also, Kunark, I think there was a thread that already argued that it was DVD too. [Edit]Found it: Here | |
Kunark wrote:
Also, I believe it will only be released in a PSP-playable-only format. No, it is available for DVD format as well. http://www.ffextreme.com/archive-2005-06.html The UMD format of Advent Children, has been set for a release on 14th September, the same date as the DVD release. http://www.gamesindustry.biz//news.php?aid=5804 As yet, the only confirmed UMD movie title is Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, which Square Enix is expected to ship simultaneously on DVD and on UMD when it finally arrives - expected to be in the middle of next year. http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=58791 DVD / UMD Titles Final Fantasy VII Advent Children (DVD, UMD) Anyways, didn't mean to list so many sources, just wanted to show more than one to show the others were legit. | |
Makubezu wrote:
It only offers gameplay? Search Play-Yan... Or search for The Movie Player(Third party) on websites like lik-sang.com Its in english and cheaper. | |
Well, it sounds good to me. Like I said, though... I'm not much interestested in a handheld system, and it's only likely that I'll get one if some really intriguing RPG comes available.
For a moment there, I was really interested in the second add-on to Final Fantasy VII, in the form of a multi-player prequel centering it's story upon the Turks. Too bad they made the mistake of releasing it as they did. If I remember correctly, it's only available for a certain line of phones that are serviced in japan? (Correct me if I'm wrong on this, please.) Other than Final Fantasy, it's usually other RPGs in general. I love a good story, and with varying techniques of gameplay and innovative battle systems, I can easily be hooked to a game through it's completion. Nintendo simply didn't seem to have the same numbers as the playstation. One thing I will admit, though. I'm not one of those die-hard fans either way. It's all about the software for me. Ive owned sony's, nintendo's, and even microsoft's consoles. But, I tend to play the sony more due to it's long list of enjoyable RPGs. The way to get me to spend more money on the other system? It should be obvious. Make more games that I find worth the purchase. I have no problems, usually, purchasing more than one console, one way or another. And, if not... I'm sure a friend will let me borrow theirs long enough to play a rented game ;). | |
You do know that sony has a console system in every 1 in 3 families?
How can you even compair nintendo to them, when sony also sells mass amounts of other software, hardware, etc. If Sony wanted to they could easily do a hostile take over of nintendo if they ever became a real threat. You're comparing the scores right now, you're not even looking at the big picture. There's going to be a lot of games coming out for the psp, and I mean a lot and as many die hard nintendo fans you think there are, sony warrants the largest fan based out of all the gaming market atm (way over 2 million community members on just their forums alone). Sony's not a small time company, they have hundred's of software developers where nintendo's main source of income comes from their own development. We'll see what nintendo does with their next generation console, and if they keep up with the genious ideas like nintendogs and a bunch of the other ds games out there... They might stand a fighting chance if they get more of a variety on the shelves with some big hitting names. When you look at the big picture you see - umd's, mass amounts of dvd's on a portable form that hopefully in the feature will go down in price dramatically as time warrants and they will get some big titles out like grand theft auto and Final fantasy, and a whole bunch more. The battery doesn't matter that much as they have car rechargers and plug and play adapters. Look at the retail factors as well, sony offers free merchandise (including entire ps2 systems) to retail workers on their site. No shipping costs. Microsoft charges shipping plus another fee. Nintendo doesn't offer jack, in fact last I checked they didn't offer anything of worth. | |
You guys are comparing units, but you're not comparing actual net earnings. Look them apples up, and you'll see who's winning.
BTW I am not a fan boy, I just know that sony's not really worried. Let nintendo have a few months or even a year of fun, but when sony starts puting out the big guns it's all over. | |
Jon Snow wrote:
You do know that sony has a console system in every 1 in 3 families? You didn't pull that out your arse? How can you even compair nintendo to them, when sony also sells mass amounts of other software, hardware, etc. If Sony wanted to they could easily do a hostile take over of nintendo if they ever became a real threat. You're comparing the scores right now, you're not even looking at the big picture. There's going to be a lot of games coming out for the psp......atm (way over 2 million community members on just their forums alone)....We'll see what nintendo does with their next generation console, and if they keep up with the genious ideas like nintendogs and a bunch of the other ds games out there... They might stand a fighting chance if they get more of a variety on the shelves with some big hitting names. LOL. First of all, Nintendo is NOT a small time company. Hell, Nintendo started up in the late 1890's and it still running. They have done it all. Love motels, cards, toys. If you think they are 'small' time then you need to read a book on the industry. Nintendo makes more profit than Sony and Microsoft's gaming division combined. That means they make more money if you do not understand. Might stand a fighting chance? I hope PSP might stand a fighting chance, because when big name titles such as Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, New Super Mario Bros., Pokemon Diamond/Pearl come out for DS, it's over. Nintendo is not going anywhere. Why would a company that has more than 12 billion dollars in the bank leave the videogame business? That doesn't compute to me. Maybe you can explain that one to me. Hell, Pokemon is the leading software game this generation in terms of sales. Yes, MORE than GTA, MORE than Final Fantasy; need I go on? and I mean a lot and as many die hard nintendo fans you think there are, sony warrants the largest fan based out of all the gaming market I think you should refute that comment. If we are going by the whole gaming market, then Nintendo warrants the largest fan base because of Gameboy. And last time I checked, Gameboy sales more than the Playstation name. Sony's not a small time company, they have hundred's of software developers where nintendo's main source of income comes from their own development. Hm? I hope you are not talking about their GAMING division because they in no way have more software developers within their division than Nintendo does. And you know what is sad about Nintendo only making games and Sony does other things as well? Nintendo makes a lot more money. | |
Jon Snow wrote:
You guys are comparing units, but you're not comparing actual net earnings. Look them apples up, and you'll see who's winning. Lol, the big guns? What big guns? And oh, actual net earnings? You mean how Nintendo made more money than Sony did in the last fiscal year? | |
Jon Snow wrote:
The battery doesn't matter that much as they have car rechargers and plug and play adapters. Thus making you pay money, for a handheld system that can be easily breakable/lost. | |
Jon Snow wrote:
Look at the retail factors as well, sony offers free merchandise (including entire ps2 systems) to retail workers on their site. No shipping costs.Have you acutal worked at Sony? Have you acutal worked at Microsoft? Have you acutal worked at Nintendo? If not post where you got your info from.Also post where you get your stats from. It is probably some bias sony website. Please acutal do research if you are going to post stuff like this. | |
how the hell do you think I know this, I work in the game industry. I sell video games and manage stores. It's what I do, now before you start reading off hand sites and their view on the statistics why don't you ask someone who talks directly with representatives of the company, like I am going to be talking with nintendo in Las Vegas this weekend for a meeting that EB Games is going to be having down there about the gameboy micro, which I've heard rumors everyone there might be getting free stuff from them for a change, like a free gameboy micro system :P
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Makubezu wrote:
Jon Snow wrote: Sorry I ment to say in the U.S. Look it up. Sony boasts it everywhere. Here's a fact sheet from sony's site: PlayStation® Facts The acclaimed PlayStation game console achieved status as the best-selling game console ever, with a PlayStation found in one out of every three U.S. households. To date, more than 33 million PlayStation®2 systems have been sold in North America, with over 91 million shipped worldwide. With the broadest spectrum of genres available than on any other platform, gamers can enjoy more than 1,000 titles for the PlayStation®2 system and over 1,350 for PlayStation. On March 24, 2005, Sony Computer Entertainment America introduced the PSP™ (PlayStation® Portable) entertainment system in North America. PlayStation Portable sets a new standard as the first truly integrated portable entertainment system designed to provide consumers with a comprehensive entertainment experience including games, music, movies, communication, and wireless networking. Did you know? PlayStation®2 system Console Hardware Market Share Per Platform (Life-to-date as of 4/05) PlayStation®2 system 56.4% Xbox 24.9% GameCube 18.7% Hardware Unit Sales in North America: More than 33 million units. (SCEA.) (Life-to-date as of 7/05) Software Unit Sales in North America: 286 million units. (The NPD Group) (Life-to-date as of 5/05) Software to Hardware tie ratio: 9.8 to one. (The NPD Group) (Life-to-date as of 5/05) PlayStation® Portable PSP™ (PlayStation® Portable )Launch statistics: In the month of June, PSP™ sales outperformed console sales, an increase of 34.4% versus the same time period last year. PSP™ was the top-selling hardware system, ranked as the #1 portable hardware system (dollar sales), and #2 overall, only after PlayStation®2, according to The NPD Group. PSP generated $154 million in revenue, the most among all hardware systems in March, particularly impressive considering March 2005 NPD data only includes the first 10 days of sales (The NPD Group) (Life-to-date as of 3/05). How can you even compair nintendo to them, when sony also sells mass amounts of other software, hardware, etc. If Sony wanted to they could easily do a hostile take over of nintendo if they ever became a real threat. You're comparing the scores right now, you're not even looking at the big picture. There's going to be a lot of games coming out for the psp......atm (way over 2 million community members on just their forums alone)....We'll see what nintendo does with their next generation console, and if they keep up with the genious ideas like nintendogs and a bunch of the other ds games out there... They might stand a fighting chance if they get more of a variety on the shelves with some big hitting names. They were extremely large, but have been losing their grip ever since they lost big names like Final Fantasy and such. Don't get me wrong, they still make money I never said they didn't but Nintendo's worth vs. Microsoft and Sony is... by far not even a comparison. I don't know where you're getting your statistics because I get all three of these companies stock information and I don't hear anywhere near 12 billion, although I haven't taken the time to calculate all of their net earnings up so it could be possible I'm not ruling it out. Hell, Pokemon is the leading software game this generation in terms of sales. Yes, MORE than GTA, MORE than Final Fantasy; need I go on? Are you sure about that? Are you absolutely sure? Last I checked sports games in America at least were leading the sales run, but you know we sure have a lot of pokemon games in our stores here in WA, and not 50 copies of madden 05. Last I checked we have 5 copies of pokemon GBA games in the one store I run and none in any other system, versus the 25-50 copies of various sports game titles. and I mean a lot and as many die hard nintendo fans you think there are, sony warrants the largest fan based out of all the gaming market Well that's interesting because I don't know why Sony would boast the largest gaming community if they didn't have the largest gaming community? I thought that was false advertisement? Maybe you should sue. I think you should refute that comment. If we are going by the whole gaming market, then Nintendo warrants the largest fan base because of Gameboy. And last time I checked, Gameboy sales more than the Playstation name. Sony's not a small time company, they have hundred's of software developers where nintendo's main source of income comes from their own development. I agree, nintendo's much more efficient at making money when it comes to software developers. They just keep making the same games over and over so they have a template to work with, and they sell every time due to a loyal fan base. Hm? I hope you are not talking about their GAMING division because they in no way have more software developers within their division than Nintendo does. And you know what is sad about Nintendo only making games and Sony does other things as well? Nintendo makes a lot more money. It depends are we considering the mass majority of big name companies/software developers sony has for playstation@? Last I checked there were over 1000 titles for ps2, over 1350 for psone and a lot of those are just as good if not better than a lot of nintendo titles, and like what, 350-450 titles for nintendo's gamecube if that? Now the gameboy has a huge chunk of games I can agree that the gamecube is what kept nintendo in the gaming industry. If they didn't monopolize that area they wouldn't be where they are today. Super nintendo was awesome but so was the psone. I guess my point is you can't even really say that nintendo's going to ever beat out sony, because they can't and won't. It's like saying a company will ever make warner bro's give up the entertainment industry. They're way too large, Sony's gaming industry spans not just in their console system but they also maintain some of the biggest names for MMO's. Everquest, Everquest 2, Matrix online, star wars galaxies, and they have Final Fantasy (not to mention final fantasy online), Metal gear solid, and just soooo many great games for their system that nintendo can't even hold a candle to the titles beyond their generic mario/zelda/metroid/etc franchise. If you took away those big names it would be dead, but look at ps2 it continually comes out with big name games that aren't franchise based. God of war anyone? It's nice to have one of nintendo's quality games but like what, you'll play a great game 2 or 3 times through and then you get bored of it, and if nintendo only puts out 3 or 4 AAA games a year that are really just amazing and ps2 puts out 20 AA-AAA games, which one has a longer lasting play value? The next generation system of nintendo's better be cheap (or garner some interest from publishers/developers) or I think they're going to struggle a LOT. The gaming industries revenue is increasing, and where is all the potential going to go? Where the money is. That's why they go to sony. Lets also consider when we're considering revenue's the hand held market is vastly 2d. 2d games are considerably cheaper to produce/make and provide a larger income. My store in particular only makes 4 dollars on average off brand new games we sell a 50 dollars due to just buying and shipping costs, and we make more for gameboy, and other odds and ends. | |
Un Nintendo has since then been gaining back footing on the market, and has even recovered rights to Final Fantasy Games.
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OK i have a ds (bit late in the topic) i dont care about graphics its game play,my cousin aged 24 loves my ds she spends more time playing it then i do...
Also PSP has all these media features wow big deal means less time for gaming also there are side accessories for DS To play MP3/MP4 (www.liksang.com) as some said early in the topic. But a nice thing i like about the psp is the looks which does look stunning. Gaming wise DS owns...can not wait for mario kart XD and jump superstars. Wouldn't it be piss taking while playing the psp getting so far on a game then BANG battery died and you never saved.... OMG THEY DELAYED ZELDA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | |
It only offers gameplay? Search Play-Yan and you'll take that back. It relies souly on software developers? Whats wrong with having more games than the opposing company? It sure is helping them. And case you did not know, UMD movies sale more than PSP game software, and for a handheld thats main purpose is to play games, that is sad, IMO. What does that mean? People aren't using it to play games more than people are using it for other functions. Hell, they bought into the hype just like everyone else because it 'looks' nice.
Lol, a UMD that isn't even a game? A UMD on PSP, that I will be able to watch on DVD format on my DVD player as well? Lol.
And oh, I think I'll wait for REAL FF games like FFIII and FFCC for DS.