Lesbian Assassin wrote:
Hey, here's a question... why all the furor over replacing the webshooters I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm happy to hear that they changed the webshooters. That always bugged me about the comic, that this kid was going to be able to come up with that sort of technology. Much more believable (even in the context of a comic) that it's part of him being changed by a spider. | |
Yeah... I'm all for Peter being incredibly intelligent, but he's supposed to be one of those people that could be a great scientist "if they would focus themselves"... and being Spider-man, he doesn't. Leave the gadgeteering to Reed Richards.
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Deadron wrote:
Lesbian Assassin wrote: Well, first of all, he was a genius. But what I remember, I think, was that he used modified acid shooters. But I'm not so sure. I'm pretty sure a college student could make a simple pressure-sensitive web-shooter. I know I can. Are you saying you can't? | |
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
Hey, here's a question... why all the furor over replacing the webshooters, but not so much for putting Mary Jane Watson in Gwen Stacy's role? Both were done to compress an already complicated and implausible (to the non-fangeek) story... but the second change is the one that does the most actual damage to the mythology. How about the fact that a pendulum of the length of spidey's typical swinging web would swing so slowly as to make make a trip through NYC agonizing? If it weren't for that, I might have tried a little cobbling long ago. | |
Garthor wrote:
Deadron wrote: So how about making the web itself? A liquid that turns into a sticky rope upon contact with air, strong enough to swing around town on, or bind up a few baddies. Gonna tackle that one too? | |
see you got to remember that some things just dont make sence if you think about it, his web fans out at the end right before it hits the wall not matter what. He raps his enemys up with web and it doesnt spead out like when web slinging. It just makes more sence if its part of him, like say if you grab a wall you know to spreed out your hand but if you hug someone you know to rap your arms around them, not your hand. See how it makes more sence. But i did like the machines for web shooters.
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Let me rephrase that... it's not a shooter that's the problem to create. It's the web fluid itself. And yes, I know he's a genius... but he only ever made the one really amazing invention, the web fluid. The spider tracers essentially did nothing on their own, they were keyed into one of his super powers, and even comparatively minor inventors like the Chameleon figured out how to do that.
As I said though, it's not so much a question about whether or not he's intelligent as it is a question about whether or not he's focused. Peter Parker is a promising scientist who quit college and scraped together a living as an amateur photographer selling what are in essence faked photos of real fights so he could devote his time to being Spider-man. That's not the sort of person who develops revolutionary materials overnight. | |
Not only do the webshooters spew a long line of miraculous fluid, but the spinerettes weave it into an actual webbing.
The spinnerettes on Spidey's webshooters have different settings for different web styles, kind of like the end of the better Super Soakers. ;) I too once had a dream of building my own webshooters. As Skysaw pointed out, the real trick is the web fluid. | |
Scoobert wrote:
lol, just wait tell it comes out on vidio and rent it for 5 bucks,The damn game does the same thing, see the movie before playing the game or theres not point in watching the movie. I guess there's no point to watching the movie if you've read the comic then either. There was nothing surprising in the movie for anyone that has even a passing familiarity with Spidey, but I still loved it. :) | |
but see in the mits of battle he would not be able to mess with it in split seconds,and he would waist it so fast when he was say web slinging. But if his body made it, he would not run out(or at least he would regain slowly, like in game).
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The comic book Spider-man is able to manipulate his webshooters because he has super-fast reflexes and amazing manual dexterity, not to mention that in combat, he knows what he needs to do before he needs to do it. Another reason why homemade webshooters wouldn't be a great idea: even if you had the web fluid, you wouldn't have the reflexes or musculature needed to use it the way Spidey does.
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Ok i have one question that is kinda ovios, whould this subjuct come up on a batman movie, everyone knows the batman good, but he's not the "comic nerds" pic. I dont mean the exsact post but a simular one, i just wonder.
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Scoobert wrote:
but see in the mits of battle he would not be able to mess with it in split seconds,and he would waist it so fast when he was say web slinging. But if his body made it, he would not run out(or at least he would regain slowly, like in game). You don't want to argue realism about a comic book hero. If his body made it, as spiders do, it would come out of his abdomen at a relatively slow speed and have to be anchored. Real spiders don't cast webs, they weave them, slowly and with patience. The web shooters as a separate invention have been a useful plot device in the comics since he invented them. He does run out of web fluid in the comic, if he isn't careful about managing his resources. | |
still, a in arm web shooter, like venom, would work alot better. With just a thought it would come out how he liked it. And what about the net web? How would his little gismo make a whole web come out at once, i under stand if he premade them than threw them, but just poof and you have this 7 foot net?
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i know he runs out, but it takes way to long. If all that web was in one container than it would weigh a ton, and yes i realze he has super strangth but he would have to carrry them everywere, imagin if the guy at a fancy restront took his coat and fell on the floor because it weighed so much.
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Lesbian Assassin wrote:
Making that claim isn't getting artsy so much as getting While I hate to get contentious myself, I've seen "The Matrix: Revisited" several times, and even own the nifty "Art of The Matrix" coffee table tome... the Wachowski brothers were certainly INSPIRED by various comics and anime, but the movie is BASED ON nothing but their own imaginations. Regards, Corporate Dog | |
Like someone (Skysaw?) said, it's not just a matter of a wider nozzle, he's got little gizmos inside the nozzle that are weaving the web as it comes out... in essence, he is premaking them, but only right before they're needed.
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First, the material is all but weightless. Second, the dense "webbing" drawn in the comic is mostly empty space between fine strands. Third, he doesn't carry everything in a single container, he has fluid cartridges scattered about the city in unlikely spots.
Fourth, although not all writers and artists remember to take advantage of this, the fluid is recyclable... used strands can be retracted in to the shooters and liquefied again. | |
I think it's because, while everyone knows they're not going to be bit by an altered spider, and if they do, an allergic reaction is probably the best they could hope for... but some people are still hoping, deep down inside, that they'll wake up one afternoon and cobble together a working webshooter...